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Old 01-29-2013, 01:14 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by TheReverend View Post
Well, he also cleaned house, hired the coaching staff that's currently front runners for COY, etc.

A guy like TY Hilton had 860 yards as a part time rookie.
Vick Ballard had over another 800.

...where's our mid round picks playing like that? In fact, we haven't really had any significant impact from players of this year's draft.

IMO, if you write off selecting Luck because "anyone would have", then does the same logic apply to receiving the award just because you convinced Manning to sign on the dotted line?
That's not a good example. Manning could have gone anywhere - and arguably SHOULD have given the Niners are opening as favorites. Elway convinced Manning to come here. That's a definitive show of GM skill. Luck was the obvious number one pick before Bill Polian was even fired. And he HAD to play for whoever took him. Saying "oh look at how smart he is to draft Andrew Luck" is a bunch of crap.

I'll throw you a bone on some of the other pieces but when you factor the injuries and mid-season waiver claims and signings, it was Elway hands down.
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