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Old 01-25-2013, 04:12 PM   #144
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Now your just proving my point, why add another "hole to fill" by letting a top 5 LT in the league walk?

We need an MLB, DT, OL, CB, S, and even saying that we can cover those positions with scheme. Signing PM to monster money then not protecting him with a proven vet in his blind side is a true waste of money.

I could almost see your point if we had a running QB like Kapernick or that scrub who washed out of the league in NY but we need to protect our old drop back passer.

Your looking at it from a money end which is something that a typical manager might do but a good manager would see his talent, weigh it against his needs and pay for it if it made his group stronger. A problem with American companies is that they look at the bottom line 1st and make decisions off of that rather than look at performance and how it will impact the future. OMG we can fire one dude and free up 160k and replace him with a kid out of college for 40k a year, there by passing up all that talent and experience to make a spread sheet look good.
Yes I am looking at it from a monetary angle, never said I was not in fact I have always said show me the money..


most poster on here are strictly looking at talent and while that is nice our super bolw team had to be blown up because we could not sustain the talent level because the players ALL wanted more money than we had..

not only did we have players retire but had several Sharpe, Atwater and ROmo being the most noticeable moved on for more money even though we had other biggie players retire mikey shot his wad getting the rings with ZERO concerns for next year..

even with those players retiring we still had NO cap room..

SO a good Gm should be looking at what happens next year also when he is putting together packages for this year..

SO even IF we are able to slide enough money for clady this year what happens next year.. and the year after.. you are talking about just handleing the Profits for this year .. a good GM VP should be looking long term.. something that John said he would be doing by building the team via the draft .. which he has and by signing short term rental UFA mostly one year guys.. But that is starting to bite him in the !@#$%^&* also..

note the following guys that leave the team in 2013 and then in 2014.. we will have to have money then to sign the good ones and most of what are leaving are good one IMO..


Code:
52. Greg Orton at Wide Receiver 	1 yr/TBD 	2013 	2014
51. Mario Butler at Cornerback 	1 yr/TBD 	2013 	2014
1. Justin Boren             1 yr/$405,000 	2013 	2014
2. Paul Cornick             1 yr/$405,000 	2013 	2014
3. Ben Garland             1 yr/$405,000 	2013 	2014
5. Quentin Saulsberry   1 yr/$405,000 	2013 	2014
10. Trindon Holliday      2 yr/$870,000 	2013 	2014
12. Sealver Siliga          2 yr/$870,000 	2013 	2014
13. Duke Ihenacho        1 yr/$480,000 	2013 	2014
17. Jeremiah Johnson    1 yr/$480,000 	2013 	2014
18. Mario Fannin        3 yr/$1,405,000 	2013 	2014
23. Chris Harris         3 yr/$1,398,000 	2013 	2014
26. C.J Davis             2 yr/$1,020,000 	2013 	2014
27. Eric Davis  think you meant decker..
      Eric Decker          4 yr/$2,522,150 	2013 	2014
28. Zane Beadles       4 yr/$4,171,000 	2013 	2014
29. JD Walton            4 yr/$2,588,500 	2013 	2014
30. Jacob Hester        2 yr/$1,415,000 	2013 	2014
31. Manuel Ramirez    2 yr/$1,415,000 	2013 	2014
34. Andre Caldwell      2 yr/$1,800,000 	2013 	2014
35. Robert Ayers      5 yr/$15,500,000 	2013 	2014
36. Caleb Hanie         2 yr/$2,250,000 	2013 	2014
37. Knowshon Moreno   5 yr/$16,700,000 	2013 	2015
38. Wesley Woodyard    2 yr/$3,500,000 	2013 	2014
39. Mike Adams         2 yr/$4,000,000 	2013 	2014


40 Von Miller           4 yr/$21,000,380 	2014 	2015
41. Willis McGahee     4 yr/$9,500,000 	2014 	2015
42. Jacob Tamme       3 yr/$8,000,000 	2014 	2015
32. Orlando Franklin     4 yr/$4,350,000 	2014 	2015
33. Demaryius Thomas   5 yr/$12,155,000 	2014 	2015
44. Joel Dreessen       3 yr/$8,500,000 	2014 	2015
45. Joe Mays           3 yr/$12,000,000 	2014 	2015
24. Nate Irving          4 yr/$2,735,000 	2014 	2015
25. Rahim Moore       4 yr/$4,448,000 	2014 	2015
20. Julius Thomas      4 yr/$2,420,000 	2014 	2015
21. Virgil Green         4 yr/$2,160,000 	2014 	2015
22. Quinton Carter     4 yr/$2,490,000 	2014 	2015
48. Champ Bailey     4 yr/$43,000,000 	2014 	2015
16. Steven Johnson    3 yr/$1,452,000 	2014 	2015
4. Gerell Robinson        2 yr/$900,000 	2014 	2015
6. Aaron Brewer         3 yr/$1,444,000 	2014 	2015

11. Philip Blake          4 yr/$2,554,000 	2015 	2016
46. Chris Kuper        6 yr/$28,012,000 	2015 	2016
14. Danny Trevathan   4 yr/$2,204,072 	2015 	2016
15. Malik Jackson        4 yr/$2,313,600 	2015 	2016
7. Omar Bolden         4 yr/$2,574,428 	2015 	2016
8. Brock Osweiler       4 yr/$3,100,000 	2015 	2016
9. Ronnie Hillman       4 yr/$3,000,000 	2015 	2016
43. Matt Prater        4 yr/$13,000,000 	2015 	2016
19. Derek Wolfe         4 yr/$6,247,675 	2015 	2016



47. DJ Williams        6 yr/$32,000,000 	2013 	2014
23 players becoming unrestricted free agents after this coming season..

16 becoming UFA in 2014..

SO IMO they will be looking at those numbers also when hthey are deciding about Clady or any other player they want to sign..

YES the cap does go up each year but 23 players at teh lowest end that need to be replaced at the end of this next season is a bunch and will cost us some coin to sign at least this group..
Code:
      Eric Decker          4 yr/$2,522,150 	2013 	2014
28. Zane Beadles       4 yr/$4,171,000 	2013 	2014
29. JD Walton            4 yr/$2,588,500 	2013 	2014
30. Jacob Hester        2 yr/$1,415,000 	2013 	2014
31. Manuel Ramirez    2 yr/$1,415,000 	2013 	2014
35. Robert Ayers      5 yr/$15,500,000 	2013 	2014
37. Knowshon Moreno   5 yr/$16,700,000 	2013 	2015
38. Wesley Woodyard    2 yr/$3,500,000 	2013 	2014
and IF you do not resign them they are going to be hard to replace.. and cost money.. then of course we have the following year..

Code:
40 Von Miller           4 yr/$21,000,380 	2014 	2015
41. Willis McGahee     4 yr/$9,500,000 	2014 	2015
42. Jacob Tamme       3 yr/$8,000,000 	2014 	2015
32. Orlando Franklin     4 yr/$4,350,000 	2014 	2015
33. Demaryius Thomas   5 yr/$12,155,000 	2014 	2015
now maybe tamme and Willis are not biggies but DT and Von as well as franklin will be..

so yes I look at more than this minute when I'm making my decisions and just because there is money left in the bank, that does not mean you have to spend it right now..

Does what I have presented, make it harder to Clady to a whopper contract IMO YES..


The broncos have a Cap specialist that is doing much the same thing but in far deeper detail.. then generalities that I have shown..

I will say it again..

So far John has given me no reason than to trust what he is doing (even if he fubared Mayes)

I see no indications that he is going mikey on us.. every thing has been planned out.. Even telling DJ if he wanted to come back this year to us he would have to redo his existing contract for 2012.

Almost all of his UFA have been short term and have for the most part worked out well.. which means he is still on board for building via the draft which is the most economical way to field a team..
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