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Old 01-02-2013, 04:04 PM   #136
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Originally Posted by Drek View Post
1. His 4 first round picks have paid off as well or better than anyone else in the league over that stretch. Thomas is a future star, Ayers has been a solid starter/very good rotational DE who has continued to improve. Moreno was the starter for two years, was never healthy last year long enough to even compete for the job, and now looks even better so far this season. Tebow took a 1-5 team to a division title and a MASSIVE win against the Steelers, that alone was worth the pick.

2. His second round selections were weak, but also 3 of the 4 came in his first year on a short prep schedule. McBath couldn't stay healthy after his rookie year, but that happens to anyone's draft selections. Smith and Quinn were busts (though Smith did have two solid years as a backup CB for Detroit). Beadles however has been a starter since day one and has done quite well for us, so at least one of those four was a clear hit.

Total success rate in the first two rounds = 5/8, not bad by NFL standards.

After that you list a bunch of late round guys which no one expects much from (Thompson's career with the Broncos is FAR better than you'd normally get form a 7th rounder for example).

As for free agents, you're griping about a bunch of low cost filler additions that ever team makes. The current regime gave Joe Mays more guaranteed money for this season than all of those players ever got from the Broncos excluding Orton, but that big payday for him was due to Elway's decision, not McDaniels.

His time here was the purge this club needed post-Shanahan (who I still argue is a first ballot HoF coach). Acting like he failed at everything in general is narrow minded, half assed bull**** that is beneath a board where people should be able to parse data into finer groups than "succeed" and "fail".
When did I say he failed at everything? And who the hell is talking about Shanahan?

You claimed McDaniels problem wasn't personnel acquisition when his draft record is pathetic considering the amount of first day picks he had at his disposal.

Spin it any way you want, McDaniels had 8 first/second rounds picks of which only DT and Zane Beadles are starters.

The rest like Tebow, Quinn, McBath, A Smith are busts with Ayers a backup and Moreno as just another RB.

If you think that's not a problem then you need to step back into reality.

And that's not even mentioning targetting Brady Quinn for Peyton Hillis, bringing in Chris Simms and of course Kyle Orton.

For a guy that's supposed to be an offensive guru his chosen QBs were bottom of the barrel rancid.

But no, his personnel decisions weren't the problem?

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