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Old 12-20-2012, 10:34 AM   #596
jerseyguy4
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Originally Posted by houghtam View Post
Do the research on criminology. Or just watch an episode of "It Takes A Thief". The primary factor determining whether a burglar targets a house is how quickly they can get in and out. Having a gun in the house will not change this, and more than likely, even with your fingerprint safe and gun, your house will statistically have been burgled long before you are able to mount any response. This means that in a home invasion where the perpetrator is intent on physical harm, it's also more likely that they will get to you or yours before you get to them.

Personally, I feel safer in my house without guns (although I do own a Model 1861 Springfield rifled musket) than I would with them.

But then again, no one is asking you to give up your guns. Most of us would just prefer not to live in a society where people who admittedly never have and likely never will have the need to carry a gun on their person still want to do so anyway. Most of us would prefer to live in a society where one of the most popular rifles is not a modified M-16. Most of us would prefer to live in a society where the reason you can't get a 100 round magazine is because there is no reason a normal person (I mean this both physiologically and psychologically) needs one, not because they are sold out.

Own your handguns and hunting rifles with reasonable regulation on who can own them, with reasonable regulation on what types and how much ammunition they can carry, with reasonable regulation of muzzle velocity and caliber. I have no problem with any of that, regardless of whether racist errand thinks I'm lying or not.

What I do have a problem with is people buying an M-16 and calling it a hunting rifle. What I do have a problem with is people who perform the mental gymnastics required to come up with any legitimate reason to own a high capacity magazine. What I do have a problem with is carrying handguns like it's the 1870's and John Hardin's going to shoot you for cheating at cards. A populace walking around with holstered weapons in broad daylight is not the hallmark of a healthy, sane, or (statistically speaking ) safe society.
For the most part, I am with you. I also do not want to live in a society resembling the wild west. I don't want to carry a gun wherever I go.
But I do want to be safe, both me and my family.

And so my question becomes, how do you make the American people safe from those that have guns when the ones we own are gone?

I expected the answer in this country to come from the taser.
- Ban handguns and assault weapon sale to anyone but government and police
- institute a long term buy-back program, to get existing handguns and assault rifles off the street
- institute a viable taser program, where people who want personal protection can get that in a non-lethal, but effective form.

Quite honestly, I do not think the taser is yet an acceptable replacement. They are still fairly new, and they need to be further developed. They need to be so good, that someone like myself (who is not dead set on packing heat and expressing my constitutional rights), will hand over his handgun, replace it with a taser, and feel that it will be just as effective. It needs range, accuracy, multiple shot capability, penetration ability, and be affordable

And like always, it comes down to money: a LOT of money to finance a buy back program. A LOT of money to kill the arms industry.

In the end, I'd still like to be able to own and use my hunting rifles (for hunting). But I am also acceptable to having all of them not being semi-automatic. I am acceptable to them all having built-in restricted size magazines. I am acceptable to them all being a minimum length.
And should the King of England get saucy again, there would still be millions and millions of these in American hands to fight him off (said in jest)

And if you did have a taser that could replace the handgun, America would be a lot more acceptable to letting civilians carry them. Arming teachers goes from really scary to a nice precaution. Practically every mass shooting this country has seen could be minimized.
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