Originally Posted by lonestar
Do you really think that John was not a HOF QB before mikey came to town?
How about Brady under any other HC does he become a HOF player?
Same goes for Bart star.
They IMO were HOF coaches. They created their teams from the ground up they did not inherit all of their HOF players.
Mikey won ONE post season game without JOHN.
I doubt that he can win another one without him. Time will tell.
Actually John was not a HOF QB before Shanahan came to town as his QB coach, and his OC, and one could even argue that his bust was not a sure thing before Shanahan came in as his HC. Shanahan had far more impact on John's NFL development than any single other person.
Let me ask you this, was Belichick a HOF head coach before Brady came to town?