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Old 12-13-2012, 01:55 PM   #13
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Neither one of them are good enough to even get their team to the playoffs, at this point. By NFL standards, they both suck.

Right now, both these guys are pretenders. They only get to start, because their ownership/head coach think that they can be better than they are right now. If they can't make the playoffs within a couple years, they will be backups.
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