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Old 10-12-2012, 01:13 PM   #137
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Originally Posted by Kaylore View Post


Really? You're telling me Biden "won at everything!" and then say I'm blinded? Yeah even the Democrats and the the Obama campaign are admitting Biden got mudled on foreign policy and taxes. But I can tell you guys are going to try and pretend this was some kind of ass-whooping. Go look at the polls and read what was said. I don't agree with PriceJ that Ryan did too much, but I think his game plan was to play conservative. Biden won on some things, but lost on style.

Take a look

http://www.examiner.com/article/poll...inst-joe-biden

Where did I say Biden 'won everything? Answer me this.

I said I didn't see where Ryan won a single section of the debate. See the difference here? Of course there were instances (few but they were there) where Ryan traded punches instead of cutesy little fluffy stories with puppy dog eyes. Some topics went to Biden a couple could could be seen as a draw due to ideological differences. But did Ryan WIN a single round here? I asked you to show me where and you just ran from it.

And for all those pooh-poohing the VP debat, I ask you this. Do you believe that Ryan is ready for the office of the president in case of circumstances?




I think what he did do was give the Dems what they wanted to see: A Democrat attacking a Republican to avenge the Obama beat down. Geroge Stephanopolis seems to agree. Clearly you're all here insisting it was a "beat down" and "no contest." But don't you see that's because you agree with Biden? If that was the goal, then fine. But Like I keep saying: Debates are about winning America, not about winning the debate. Shouting down and arrogantly laughing at your opponent might make your core base feel good because of the resentment for the opposition they hold, but it's a cheap thrill that doesn't sell well to moderates. If you look bad "winning" the debate, but it hurts you in the election was it worth it?

It's a VP debate so it won't make much difference, however I am not sure outside of Biden firing up his base, that this changed anything other than cement Biden's reputation as something of a lose cannon.
Where did I say Biden won everything? I said Ryan didn't win a single topic IMO. Of course there were moments they exchanged blows. Understand the difference? Answer me this first... then we can move on.
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