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Old 10-10-2012, 10:12 AM   #29
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Originally Posted by Irish Stout View Post
I agree with you here, its the same as the QB in the NFL. Too much credit when they win and too much blame when they lose.

That being said, I don't think its exactly fair to put all attacks and casualties on the President. Some perhaps depending on the decisions he actually made. The President, whether Bush and the 12 terrorist attacks that occurred under his watch, or Obama and the Benghazi debacle, is only as responsible to the level of his assessment based on the information he is given and his reaction. I think the general public will never know exactly what level the knowledge these men actually have at any given time.

Also, for every one attack that is successful, how many times have Bush or Obama (or any prior president) made a decision that ultimately shut down another attack or multiple attacks? You just don't know.

The biggest thing I'm tired of in politics is this straight up bickering. Calling people libtard or rightards or nut jobs doesn't actually help us develop an honest discourse to building a better political and government arena. The lack of willingness to compromise, even on the neighbor to neighbor level, shows us that we're more concerned about our own unique positions than we are concerned about the greater welfare and development of the country as a whole.

So... for whatever its worth, I am willing to compromise and match cuts in spending to a certain level and we can start with Public Broadcasting (which I am an avid supporter of), if we can match it on something else like subsidies to oil companies. There, thats 0.024% of the budget, but we can all agree its a start. So the question is, why the hell isn't this actually being done and working in our government? We don't have to do it all at once in a big package, start with the little **** and work through it first.
Because many on the Right have devolved into such a rabid ideological state that they no longer see their opponents as simply people with different political ideas. They see them as evil. As traitors. That's what happens when you mix religion and politics, as Atwater did in the 80s in order to get Reagan elected in the South. They let the monster out of the box.

These rabid Right wingers believe in a mythical, anti-historical world of a bygone America full of Christian values and sturdy, protestant ethics. They see their modern opponents though the lens of propaganda: An evil, conniving, communistic, atheistic cabal of traitors intent on the downfall of America and the death of freedom. Do you compromise with such traitorous vermin? Of course not. It's like they are running their own little Riefenstahl film through their heads, 24/7.
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