Originally Posted by snowspot66
The unions negotiated with the company and came to an agreement that was signed by the company. Why should they be forced by a judge to give up what was negotiated for and received in a legally binding contract? It's always the unions faults isn't it? It's never the companies failures. It's always the unions. Does responsibility only apply to the individual that can be stepped on and walked over?
Yes contracts were signed in some cases decades ago. negotiated but sometime the unions threaten of a strike or an actual strike caused contracts that were one sided..
I saw some data years ago (80's) that the average guy that worked on the assemble line in DET was making close to 80 bucks an hour when you factored in the benefits they had including Mercedes health plans..
all of this for putting a fender or bumper on a Buick.. Even the guy pushing a broom around cleaning up was making the same money..
ZERO intelligence required to do something like that..
They were prime jobs to get at the time and NOW a reason that most of those jobs are replaced with robots.. or the factories were closed because of labor costs..
As for the airlines some of the pilots making 300k+ a year for working a few days out of the month.. Lots of senior Flight attendants are doing the same..
Now I know that the FAA has restrictions on hours worked and how many days you can work consecutively before there is mandated rest time...
I went to Germany a month ago and about an hour into the flight one of the captains came back into the first class cabin and put up a curtain around a seat and proceeded to go take a nap or watch the movie not sure what because it was blocked off... the other one switched off a couple hours later.. same on the return flight..
They get fed first class meals and in most cases stay in at least 3 star hotels each with their own room.. In many cases 4-5 star hotels depending on where they travel.. Picked up at curbside and take to the hotel and returned the same way they get reduced rates on food and drink while they are there..
In some cases senior pilots take second jobs because they are bored sitting at home.. can only play so much golf you know..
As for the junior pilots their wage scale is considerably less but then that is because the old guys want more to keep up their standard of living..
Is it right that the courts are voiding their contracts?
I guess some cuts have to be made to make sure everyone has a job.
I would think that most of the commies on here would get that..
Bankruptcy judges look at the whole package all of the financial issues and make hard decisions.. Some things go some stay. In this case the union contracts are out of line with the long term good of the airline.. Most of the Union contracts will be looked at and revised.. as are every contract that has been signed by AA, the vendors that supply them with food, fuel, hotels their crews stay at.. Airport contracts for space and rent..
The judge has to make some hard decisions that could not have been made by management..