Originally Posted by That One Guy
It's all about implementation. If you have the ability to instantly test any information they give you, it negates their ability to mislead you. Put in a system of x min per session but if they give you bad information, explore the information instantly and with them in tow if possible. Let it be known that if it isn't rock solid, the session time will become 2x mins.
If you think out the process, it can work. It's all about the mind rather than the physical pain. Physical pain isn't nearly as strong a motivating factor. In many cases, neither is the threat of death though I think you have to use that for those who don't fully participate as a punishment and threat to the next guys.
Yeah, you'd have some mistakes but this should only be implemented carefully and when you're absolutely sure. You're not out to breed a bunch of sadists having fun torturing everyone.
Also, if torturing Kalid Sheik Mohammed had been the only torture session to ever work and it helped prevent a new 9/11, do you consider torturing a success? Is it not better to get some false information but also some legitimate information?
Human intelligence will always be susceptible to misdirection and that's been going on as long as there's been people asking questions. If you're able to identify those falsehoods though AND work with a reprimand, you can knock that out quickly. There's at least two of the major interrogation techniques that are set up perfectly to root out these guys giving false information and they work but you just have to have competence at work when dealing with these guys. Let them feel like they can lie to you and win and you'll lose every time.
There is no way to confirm that the information obtained by the CIA from KSM was "legitimate."
The CIA refused the 9/11 Commission permission to interview KSM -- and other CIA detainees.
The CIA also refused the commission permission to talk to the CIA staffers who conducted the information gathering, i.e. torture sessions.
It was a farce. The body charged with the official investigation of 9/11 was denied access to the key witnesses!
That One Guy is brain dead -- like the children of Fallujah.