Originally Posted by Rohirrim
I don't know what people expect, sometimes. There is no perfect system. Until you devise the perfect man, you will not have the perfect system. You can design government to oversee abuses in the market, but you must also guard against abuses in government. This is the endless problem. Greed, avarice and corruption are sins of man, not of corporations and governments. The republic set up by the founders required two components, good laws and a vigilant, involved populace.
People have tried many forms of ideological governments from socialism to fascism where their hope is that the perfect system will take care of everything. Germans threw flowers at Hitler proclaiming him the new hope of a new Germany. They cast down the Weimar Republic and the new system was going to be perfect (Germans have this weird predilection for systems). This is the kind of delusion the libertarians suffer under. Systems don't work.
We created a government to serve the general welfare of all of the people (that's what it says in the Preamble), but the greedy, the avaricious, the corrupt, constantly work to manipulate that government to benefit themselves, and only themselves. We need systemic change right now to respond to an orgy of greed that has destroyed the world's economy, but the basis of that change will be a new set of laws and a renewed vigilance by the people.
Obviously, we've got to get the moneyed influence out of government first. Then, we have to rein in the excesses of Wall Street and the banks. We have to audit and rewrite the charter of the Fed, or end it completely as the case might be (of course it might be easier to control the greed and corruption in one entity than it would be in the hundreds that would replace it). We have to return the influence of the people to power over government. It might be best to think of dissolving the parties to do so, which could broaden the democratic input from the people.
We need to realize that one of the components of the new, global corporatism is a weakening of national identity (for every nation) and a leveling of the standard of living across the board, while even more wealth is funneled toward even fewer at the top. If such a thing is our destiny, the American people should have a voice in the decision, and not simply have this system imposed on them without a vote, which is what is happening now. The new lesson is that economic forces can now become powerful enough to sweep governments aside. Is that the world we want to live in? Where we can protest all we want but our voices mean nothing because our governments have no power over global economic interests? That's why the people in Greece are marching in the streets. The new system, imposed on them from outside, no longer allows them to control their own fate.
But whatever we do, we should be aware that the morning after that dawning of that glorious day when we have reformed our country and restored our house to order, there will some greedy little ahole in some ****hole somewhere thinking, "How can I get around all these laws to seize wealth and power for myself?" That's the disease of mankind.
Don't believe in systems. Believe in the people.
I believe in the people Ro~, that's why i'm investing in the areas i'm investing in.
Look, you and I obviously share some common ground for our distastes on what is happening. I myself, just go more granular and treat every $ I spend, as an investment. I spend on goods, as closely as I can on things made in the USA. I buy as much local as I can as well (even globally - I choose to buy from artisans, etc).
I am removing my support from most of the egregious violators of what's best for this country.
Finding out how the people I do business with, does business has been an important revelation to me.
One thing I have noticed is how "free market" has been co-opted and really means "private market". It's pretty sick how most of the people parroting this, don't even understand that they are pushing the ideology of "non-competition" and only "exclusive & private markets". These are the same people who claim "communism" - yet they support the mechanisms for communism.