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Old 08-31-2011, 11:25 AM   #18
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Originally Posted by Rock Chalk View Post
Hard to win the fans over except by winning and its hard to win with the #32 ranked defense, #32 ranked scoring defense and #31 ranked rushing defense. All out of Orton's control.
And in all fairness, playing with (what I believe was) the #30th ranked offense in terms of both 3rd down conversion % and time of possession didn't help the defense either. I agree there were elements out of Orton's control that led to losses but he does deserve some blame considering the offense only averaged around 18ppg when Kyle was playing and he had the ball in five losses with a chance to win or tie on the final drive (Jax, NYJ, SF, StL, @KC).

Not all his fault, but he deserves some responsiblity. He's a QB in a QB-driven league. Just trying to be fair.
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