Originally Posted by mhgaffney
You can't have it both ways. The "real expert" on the issue is Jones -- and his independent team of scientists. Not Gaffney. I never presumed to be an expert on Nanothermite.
Have your RANDI experts published a serious scientific paper challenging the conclusions of Jones et al? No.
As of today the following remains the best science regarding the residues - chips -- found in the WTC dust. It continues to stand unchallenged in the arena of published science.
Has Lone Nut even read it? I'm guessing he has not.
Well Gaff, first of all I have read about Bentham. It is not a reputable peer-reviewed scientific journal. The evidence, which I am sure you are aware of, strongly suggests that it is in fact a pay-per-publish journal that is not peer-reviewed. They even published a paper of completely made-up nonsense for $500 that was submitted to expose Bentham for the fraud that it is.
Jones, in the meantime, has not submitted his paper to a REAL peer-reviewed, reputable scientific journal. Only troofers continue to insist that he has.
And while I have not read Jones' entire paper (I have read some of it), that does not detract from the fact that your only counterargument of those that dispute it is ad-hominem personal attacks. You have yet to address any of the points made in the links above. If you are so sure Jones is right, then you should be able to refute every claim his critics make.
If you can't, how can you say that their claims where "checked out and proven to be false"? Where are these refutations you speak of? Who checked out the JREFers criticisms and "proved them to be false"? How did they do this? You have a link? A reference?
Even I can understand many of their criticisms and find them with merit. Why, for example, did Jones come to the conclusion that he had nanothermite when he did not test the combustion in an airless environment? Nanothermite after all contains it's own oxygen. Combusting it in an environment with available oxygen and then concluding that it's nanothermite is a non sequitur.
And why has he not submitted anonymous samples to various legitimate laboratories across the country for verification? Saying they are all in on the conspiracy makes no sense, as the labs would have no knowledge of what they were testing or who it came from.
And, of course, why doesn't Jones submit his paper to a reputable
journal instead of one that will publish anything for money (a proven fact)?
As you often put it Gaff, this all "stinks to high heaven."