Waste of time.
Ingredients and concept are silly.
Preworkout, NO supps can be effective, but the recommended dosing is silly and the product is overpriced.
To be certain, I ran a search on bb.com
Edit: You're not ready for Supps beyond whey protein, anyways. Please keep this thread updated with your progress, or PM me if you're more comfortable that way. I'll be more than happy to take an even more pro-active role in your life-style, clayton.
Edit 2: You have my e-mail still, dip****.