Originally Posted by Kid A
1) who put that plane at the bottom of the sea? Ben's people claim Whitmore, Whitmore's claim Ben. We've been made not to like Whitmore because of his treatment of Desmond, but something tells me his reasons for finding the island may be surprisingly benign, at least compared to Ben's motives.
Widmore would seem to have the resources to fake an airplane at the bottom of the sea far more than Ben. Even with the purge, where was Ben going to find that many bodies and the manpower to put an airplane in a trench?
We obviously don't know everything about Ben but I just don't see him as capable of pulling off something of that magnitude. Why live on that crappy island most of the time if you're that powerful?
Didn't Tom have a wife back when we were learning about the Others? I seem to recall it but not 100% sure. Of course, he may be trying to run for Governor in NY or NJ after all this so who knows.
3) did they really just kill off Danielle, and was Ben behind it?
Looks like they killed off Danielle and Karl (who pulled a Walt and grew up much quicker than the alleged time frame ought to allow). And I get the impression Michael is about to get his death wish.
As to the Oceanic Six, I keep trying to count and I get Jack, Kate, Sayid, Hurley, Sun and Aaron. Desmond doesn't count because he wasn't on the plane. Michael apparently doesn't count because he's under deep cover (although, strangely, so is Sayid but Sayid outed himself as one of the Six). Walt's apparently not one of the Six either.
Remember Jack tells that fake story that only eight survived the crash and only six got rescued. That's the story that the media has apparently circulated so it only refers to a specific six who were rescued, not any other survivors who might have chosen to stay on the island or might have been killed and their deaths covered up as if they were crash fatalities.