Originally Posted by epa86b@netzero
Coyer was great at gameplanning and scheming in the beginning of the year to improve a weakness from the previous year; even if allowed another weakness to pop up in the process. During Coyer time, there were many threads about tackling problems -- specifically about Al Wilson and Gold. How about allowing any corner not named Champ to be torched on outs and outs and ups? How about the times we saw the secondary perplexed after a TD? How EE chasing LT on a zone blitz for a TD? How about little to no pass rush unless there was an all out blitz? How about the lost leads in the 4th Qtr (kinda like what happen this past weekend against CHI)?
Should I continue??
If Bates is fired after this year, it would be a mistake even with his current track record. However, I could see Bates leaving on his own because the players are not that good collectively. They look better on paper then, they perform together. Why are doing better on defensive and special teams with waiver wire pickups? It only takes one missed assigment to make a defense look really BAD.
I can now truly appreciate the good job Coyer did with the players Shanny gave him. Although, Champ made the defensive appear better than they truly were through great play.
If Shanny does not understand after this year, that it all starts and ends in the trenches on offensive and defensive; then he will never realize it.
Us fans will learn early in free argency, what Shanny learned from this year based on how he spends the teams money.
Your points are well taken and I agree with a lot of what you said.
What I was trying to say (and did it poorly) was that at least with Coyer even when we had subpar talent (remember Walls, Jashon Sykes, Holland, Mario Fatafehi, Spragan - all starters) Coyer got a lot out of those players. I mean we never gave up more than 20 points p/g with Coyer whereas with Bates we've regressed to the 2nd worst D in the league in points. We weren't an elite D but better than average and got to elite level last year until injuries and lack of DL production derailed a great unit.
I'm not calling for Bates' head. Frankly I don't know what to do but surely we can expect the guy who replaced Coyer to produce better results than this?