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tsr28 07-08-2010 01:28 PM

OT: Movie Hype
 
In honor of the movie Inception due out soon by Christopher Nolan (one of the best directors around) I thought it would be interesting to hear the thoughts of people about movies that were overhyped then disappointing afterwards, as well as movies that came out of nowhere and left you amazed or impressed.

For me the most overhyped movie was Pearl Harbor, with Titanic a close second. Maybe it's the insertion of a love story that takes center stage into a disaster pic that turns it into a yawner for me. (Though all Michael Bay/Jerry Bruckheimer movies are overhyped imo)

For movies that get a good release and not much was heard about beforehand I was impressed with was District 9 and Dark City. Dark City can be classified as a love story but I love Jennifer Connelly and the story with its mendbending nature was great. With that said, I'd stick Requiem for a Dream in here as well.

Please add your overhyped and underhyped movies.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movi...18521940428358

The expectations keep ratcheting up for 'Inception.' Can they go too high?

It used to be that audiences' interest in a film was an unequivocal boon for it -- mostly since that interest came after the movie began playing and could actually spur people to buy tickets.

But over the last few years, when development and production began getting scrutinized like a paramecium in a microbiology lab -- and since blogger reviews and fan sites started stoking/killing interest months before a single frame was ever shown -- expectations became a more complicated organism. You can, it turns out, have too much early buzz. That's probably what happened with "Snakes on a Plane," and almost certainly happened with "Kick-Ass" and "Watchmen."

Sure, a studio can convert pent-up energy into ticket sales as it did with "Cloverfield," "The Blair Witch Project" and plenty of others. But pre-release hype can lead the people distributing a film to believe they have a bigger hit than they do, and lead the moviegoing public to believe they're going to see a better movie than they are.

All this comes to mind given the two-headed situation in which Warner Bros. increasingly finds itself with "Inception." Chris Nolan's new movie comes with insanely high expectations -- namely, the hope that it will save the summer and, perhaps, big-studio cinema as we know it.

If you hang out with film-fan friends, you've probably been hearing/talking about the movie -- in which Leonardo DiCaprio plays (highlight the white area to read possible spoiler for those curious of the role) a dream-stalking character named the Extractor who tries the bold move of implanting an idea in someone's subconscious -- for months. The services that track the pre-release mood show strong anticipation among a host of demographic groups, including a few you wouldn't necessarily associate with this movie. (There are nearly as many older women harboring definite interest, for instance, as there are teenage boys.)

So great is the anticipation that the "Inception" legend has grown even when there hasn't been a shred of new information about it. With every new limp summer effort that comes out, Nolan's movie gets more drool. "Yes, [interchangeable summer movie] made me depressed, but at least we'll have 'Inception," goes the refrain.

The panting got even heavier over the weekend, as trade reviewers, consumer reviewers and awards bloggers began to weigh in. The idea might have been to let some of that buzz get more grounded, but it may have soared even higher; if the frenzy had reached fever pitch before, it is, at 10 days before release, at dog-only levels now.

Rolling Stone's Pete Travers called the film "the mind-blowing movie event of the summer." Indiewire's Anne Thompson described it as a "Kubrickian masterpiece" and said it will "wow moviegoers all over the world." The Hollywood Reporter's Kirk Honeycutt suggested that he believes "Inception" is better than arguably the best big-budget movie in years. ("Following up on such ingenious and intriguing films as 'The Dark Knight' and 'Memento,' Nolan has outdone himself," Honeycutt writes.) In Variety, Justin Chang, in a line sure to play well in movie posters aimed at teenagers, called "Inception" "a heist thriller for surrealists, a Jungian's 'Rififi." God bless Movieline, which conducted its own is-it-real-or-is-it-Memorex test for the hype.

There's reason, to be sure, to think that "Inception" will rise to the hyperbole. The premise shows promise, the trailer is intriguing, and if anyone has earned this kind of pre-release love, it's Nolan, who's never made a bad film and has made several legitimately great ones.
But there's also a chance -- let's face it, a not insignificant one -- that those expecting an effects-era second-coming of "Citizen Kane" and "The Godfather" won't get all they had hoped for, especially if some of the expository scenes get a little windy, as some who've seen the film say they have. That's when all the hype will come back to bite, as those of us who would have been inclined to like a movie if we came in expectation-free will spend too much of our time trying to decide if it measures up.

Any film fan likes sitting down to a movie with a certain amount of hope, especially in a summer so conspicuously lacking in it. But guarded optimism can be the preferable way to go. It certainly was with "Avatar," which actually played better because it washed away our doubts instead of struggling to live up to our expectations.

Sure, we suppose "Inception" could turn out to be the best movie to hit the multiplex in years. But it's in the studio's interest -- and in ours -- not to think of it that way.

-- Steven Zeitchik

Homer Simpson 07-08-2010 01:51 PM

http://orangemane.com/BB/showthread....ight=Inception

Miss I. 07-08-2010 02:00 PM

Overhyped movies? hmm, well I agree about Titanic and Pearl Harbor and am not a big fan of Avatar personally. I think a lot of Oscar films tend to get overhyped. Was not a big fan of Daniel Day Lewis in "There Will be Blood." I thought he overacted worse then some silent film actors. Also, thought American Beauty was overhyped, I thought they were just a little too smug to be interesting. And I was like, really a plastic bag floating around so beautiful? It was so smug as to be patronizing. I know I am going to get burned for this, but most of the Vietnam films I have seen I thought were overhyped, like Platoon. Most Oliver Stone films seem overhyped to me and usually disappoint me.

worm 07-08-2010 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss I. (Post 2878837)
Overhyped movies? hmm, well I agree about Titanic and Pearl Harbor and am not a big fan of Avatar personally. I think a lot of Oscar films tend to get overhyped. Was not a big fan of Daniel Day Lewis in "There Will be Blood." I thought he overacted worse then some silent film actors. Also, thought American Beauty was overhyped, I thought they were just a little too smug to be interesting. And I was like, really a plastic bag floating around so beautiful? It was so smug as to be patronizing. I know I am going to get burned for this, but most of the Vietnam films I have seen I thought were overhyped, like Platoon. Most Oliver Stone films seem overhyped to me and usually disappoint me.

I totally agree on Avatar, TWBB and American Beauty (outside of Spacey) being overhyped.

Weird. I normally don't see eye-to-eye with ex-pat limeys.

Irish Stout 07-08-2010 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss I. (Post 2878837)
Overhyped movies? hmm, well I agree about Titanic and Pearl Harbor and am not a big fan of Avatar personally. I think a lot of Oscar films tend to get overhyped. Was not a big fan of Daniel Day Lewis in "There Will be Blood." I thought he overacted worse then some silent film actors. Also, thought American Beauty was overhyped, I thought they were just a little too smug to be interesting. And I was like, really a plastic bag floating around so beautiful? It was so smug as to be patronizing. I know I am going to get burned for this, but most of the Vietnam films I have seen I thought were overhyped, like Platoon. Most Oliver Stone films seem overhyped to me and usually disappoint me.

American Beauty! And Kevin Spacey won an academy award for best actor for acting bored. I act bored all the time and do a better job with it. Maybe it was cause he was whacking it in the shower to start the movie. Most overhyped piece of trash ever. Trying to come across as deep and meaningful... blah.

Bronco Boy 07-08-2010 07:55 PM

I remember hearing how awesome V for Vendetta was but didn't end up seeing it in the theater. Then when I finally saw it it was just "eh". I think it was probably built up too much in my mind.

Popps 07-08-2010 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Irish McStout (Post 2878847)
American Beauty! And Kevin Spacey won an academy award for best actor for acting bored. I act bored all the time and do a better job with it. Maybe it was cause he was whacking it in the shower to start the movie. Most overhyped piece of trash ever. Trying to come across as deep and meaningful... blah.

Loved that movie.

"... and his name is Brad... how perfect is that?"


Overhyped? Maybe. But, I thought it was great.

But, that's what makes the world go 'round.

baja 07-08-2010 08:39 PM

Am I the only one that loved Avatar?

Houshyamama 07-08-2010 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by baja (Post 2879100)
Am I the only one that loved Avatar?

No, I saw it 5 times in 3D and I haven't seen a movie more than once in the theaters in many years, hell I hardly go to 3-4 movies at the theaters in a year anymore.

baja 07-08-2010 09:07 PM

I saw it three times 2 in 3D

Houshyamama 07-08-2010 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by baja (Post 2879114)
I saw it three times 2 in 3D

3x2=6? I thought I was king in the Avatar viewing department.

baja 07-08-2010 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Houshyamama (Post 2879117)
3x2=6? I thought I was king in the Avatar viewing department.


No no one regular and two 3D = 3 total.

baja 07-08-2010 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Houshyamama (Post 2879117)
3x2=6? I thought I was king in the Avatar viewing department.

Oh I see ha ha

Dr. Broncenstein 07-08-2010 09:31 PM

For me it was Showgirls. I was working at a drive-in movie theater concession stand at the time... and I can remember all the crazy promotional shiat we had to put up for that bomb. You would think the idea of Elizabeth Berkley transitioning from Saved by the Bell to softcore porn would sell itself. Holy mother of god that movie was retarded. It was a trainwreck with exposed breasts.

SonOfLe-loLang 07-08-2010 10:30 PM

The Matrix sequels were awful, but i dont know that they necessarily qualify. Avatar and Titanic were huge successes (and i really enjoyed both), they were not overhyped. I'll agree with Pearl Harbor. That was supposed to be enormous and was a dud.

OABB 07-08-2010 10:55 PM

Lars and the real girl and the last Rambo are both highly underated.

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Crushaholic 07-09-2010 09:22 AM

Does MacGruber count as an overhyped movie? I knew I never wanted to see that piece of idiocy, but the movie studio certainly shoved the marketing of the movie down our throats...

Beantown Bronco 07-09-2010 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Broncenstein (Post 2879125)
For me it was Showgirls. I was working at a drive-in movie theater concession stand at the time... and I can remember all the crazy promotional shiat we had to put up for that bomb. You would think the idea of Elizabeth Berkley transitioning from Saved by the Bell to softcore porn would sell itself. Holy mother of god that movie was retarded. It was a trainwreck with exposed breasts.

Ummmm, wait a sec. You worked at a drive-in that played Showgirls? Wow. Normally they play family movies at those. Can't imagine enforcing the 18 and older rule on that one. I can just see all the junior high kids hopping fences and hiding in big bros trunk, etc.

Beantown Bronco 07-09-2010 09:34 AM

Not only the best movie where I had really no expectations going into, but the best movie ever:

Shawshank Redemption.

Dr. Broncenstein 07-09-2010 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco (Post 2879425)
Ummmm, wait a sec. You worked at a drive-in that played Showgirls? Wow. Normally they play family movies at those. Can't imagine enforcing the 18 and older rule on that one. I can just see all the junior high kids hopping fences and hiding in big bros trunk, etc.

We didn't even play it. We put up promotional posters months in advance and a friggin lifesize cardboard half-nekkid torso/leg thing. The NC-17 rating put the nix on it... and by the time we would have been able to play it, the movie had bombed.

Dr. Broncenstein 07-09-2010 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco (Post 2879426)
Not only the best movie where I had really no expectations going into, but the best movie ever:

Shawshank Redemption.

I had a similar experience with Mr. Brooks. Actually, I was pissed off about having to see a GD Costner movie. Totally unexpected awesomeness.

Miss I. 07-09-2010 09:59 AM

You say Twilight. I say Toilet. ;D

Seriously have a series dislike of this series of blech. I want to join Team Slayer and kick the crap out of both Team Jacob and Team whatever that pasty pouty vampire's name is.

baja 07-09-2010 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco (Post 2879426)
Not only the best movie where I had really no expectations going into, but the best movie ever:

Shawshank Redemption.

Are you being obtuse? ;D

bronco militia 07-09-2010 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Broncenstein (Post 2879434)
I had a similar experience with Mr. Brooks. Actually, I was pissed off about having to see a GD Costner movie. Totally unexpected awesomeness.

no doubt


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