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montrose 01-26-2009 01:04 PM

Mountain West Conference pushing for an automatic BCS birth
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3861079

Report: MWC seeks boost in BCS status
ESPN.com news services

The nine-team Mountain West Conference is pushing for an automatic berth into the high-stakes, big-money BCS bowl mix, USA Today has reported.
Mountain West

Three teams in the conference, including undefeated Utah in sixth, TCU in 11th and BYU in 16th, finished among the top 25 in the final 2008 BCS standings, and the league's schools will press for a meeting of their presidents, chancellors and Mountain West commissioner Craig Thompson with Atlantic Coast commissioner and current BCS coordinator John Swofford, according to the newspaper.

"The argument I will hear back is, 'Craig, here it is. It's done. It's been agreed to. It's signed,'" Thompson said of a possible reply from the BCS regarding its legal obligations. "That doesn't mean you can't put it on the table.

"One of the options would be to visit with the BCS coordinator ... just to lay out our position."

He adds: "I would not be optimistic. As I explained to them [the Mountain West presidents], it's a series of legal contracts among 11 conferences, four bowls, two TV partners with yet another TV partner coming in. I would not see much of a relaxation."

The BCS bowl games' payout for each team's school is $17 million -- more than five times what teams in second-tier bowls garner.

For his part, Swofford recalled that the Mountain West was among the 11 conferences that agreed to the current model, which "incorporates the strength of a league as a whole over a series of years," the USA Today report says.

BCS coordinator duties are rotated among the commissioners from the Big East, Big 12 and SEC. Six conferences -- the Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pacific-10, SEC and ACC -- name champions that automatically qualify for the BCS' five bowl games.

Utah, Swofford told USA Today, "had a terrific season this year, and the BCS provided an excellent platform to showcase their team."

According to the report, an opening exists for a nonqualifying conference to gain the automatic status temporarily based on a BCS formula that includes "the number of top 25 teams, finish of the highest-ranked team and average rank of all teams over a four-year period."

But the Mountain West will be vying for the highest level of qualifying status, USA Today reported.

DomCasual 01-26-2009 01:07 PM

The BCS sucks.

Dudeskey 01-26-2009 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DomCasual (Post 2267336)
The BCS sucks.

So does the Mountain West... Just sayin'

Rock Chalk 01-26-2009 01:24 PM

BCS does suck but no way in hell does one good MWC year mean they should get an automatic berth in a BCS Bowl.

WyoLaw 01-26-2009 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock Chalk (Post 2267373)
BCS does suck but no way in hell does one good MWC year mean they should get an automatic berth in a BCS Bowl.


One good year. HAHA!! What a bad memory you have.

ludo21 01-26-2009 01:31 PM

BCS is a terrible system, but MWC does not deserve an auto bid just because they have had a good season.

WolfpackGuy 01-26-2009 01:31 PM

No waiting for 9 months and you get a year's supply of Pampers.
I'm sure the ladies will love it.

houghtam 01-26-2009 01:32 PM

The current BCS system sucks, and even though the top team of the MWC has strung together several good seasons, they don't deserve to get in.

Because they don't generate 1/10 of the money the other conferences do.

There, I said what everyone else was afraid to.

Rock Chalk 01-26-2009 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by WyoLaw (Post 2267391)
One good year. HAHA!! What a bad memory you have.

I have a great memory and the MWC does not consistently put up 3+ good teams year in and year out.

Maybe to ****ty non-BCS conferences they put up good teams every year.

DomCasual 01-26-2009 01:42 PM

There are a couple teams in the MWC that don't belong in the MWC. The top teams in the conference have pretty consistently been as good as some of the BCS teams this decade. You'll argue against the MWC, but feel fine with the Big East? Please.

DomCasual 01-26-2009 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock Chalk (Post 2267406)
I have a great memory and the MWC does not consistently put up 3+ good teams year in and year out.

Maybe to ****ty non-BCS conferences they put up good teams every year.

Neither does the PAC-10 and Big East, but they're in.

snowspot66 01-26-2009 01:44 PM

Self sustaining system. Kids want to go to the automatic bid conference schools because they are the big name conferences. It's a recruitment advantage. Kids start seeing these other schools in the big bowl games and it will even that out a bit. The extra cash they would have to put into their program would go an even further distance in getting talent because they could really upgrade their facilities.

BABronco 01-26-2009 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by snowspot66 (Post 2267417)
Self sustaining system. Kids want to go to the automatic bid conference schools because they are the big name conferences. It's a recruitment advantage. Kids start seeing these other schools in the big bowl games and it will even that out a bit. The extra cash they would have to put into their program would go an even further distance in getting talent because they could really upgrade their facilities.

Agreed! :thumbs:

DomCasual 01-26-2009 01:50 PM

Ladies and gentlemen, your Big East Football Champions:

2004: Pitt; BC; Syracuse; West Virginia
2005: West Virginia
2006: Louisville
2007: West Virginia
2008: Cincinnati

Ugh.

Kaylore 01-26-2009 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock Chalk (Post 2267406)
I have a great memory and the MWC does not consistently put up 3+ good teams year in and year out.

Maybe to ****ty non-BCS conferences they put up good teams every year.

Yeah Alec, and all the conferences in the Big East are rockin' it year in and out.

La Caspa Del Diablo 01-26-2009 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DomCasual (Post 2267412)
Neither does the PAC-10 and Big East, but they're in.

The Big East is the strongest argument for MWC's case.

If you want to put the Pac-10 in this mess, lets also throw the Big Ten and ACC in for good measure.

DomCasual 01-26-2009 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by La Caspa Del Diablo (Post 2267452)
The Big East is the strongest argument for MWC's case.

If you want to put the Pac-10 in this mess, lets also throw the Big Ten and ACC in for good measure.

Agreed, to a degree. The PAC-10 is a good comparison because there are a lot of PAC-10/MWC games each year (because of the proximity). The MWC always does pretty well in those games.

I'm not even that much of a MWC fan. I just think the BCS is a joke, and it's bad for sports. Despite having attended BYU, I could never get that excited about following a team you knew wouldn't have a real shot at winning the big prize.

DomCasual 01-26-2009 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by La Caspa Del Diablo (Post 2267452)
The Big East is the strongest argument for MWC's case.

If you want to put the Pac-10 in this mess, lets also throw the Big Ten and ACC in for good measure.

Just out of curiosity, what does La Caspa Del Diablo mean?

GoHAM 01-26-2009 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snowspot66 (Post 2267417)
Self sustaining system. Kids want to go to the automatic bid conference schools because they are the big name conferences. It's a recruitment advantage. Kids start seeing these other schools in the big bowl games and it will even that out a bit. The extra cash they would have to put into their program would go an even further distance in getting talent because they could really upgrade their facilities.

Agreed, plus with an automatic berth into the BCS the national networks would start paying more attention to the MWC which in turn would create more buzz, raise the national awareness of the MWC and lead to a better talent base for the MWC. This in turn would generate more money for the league and extend the fanbase of the BCS and allow them to push off the calls for a playoff system by saying they are taking steps to "tweak" their impossibly broken system.

La Caspa Del Diablo 01-26-2009 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DomCasual (Post 2267463)
Just out of curiosity, what does La Caspa Del Diablo mean?

The Devil's Dandruff

gunns 01-26-2009 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Chalk (Post 2267406)
I have a great memory and the MWC does not consistently put up 3+ good teams year in and year out.

Maybe to ****ty non-BCS conferences they put up good teams every year.

3+ good teams year in and year out? So what's the criteria for a good team? The final standings? The teams they play? The fact they play in a certain conference? Because I'm looking at the final standings for MWC and they are as good if not better than the other conferences.

You're deluded if you think the BCS conferences play better talent. Overall they may play one good team depending on the year. Alabama, from the SEC, was thought to be #1 for quite awhile this season, Utah shellacked them, then all of a sudden they weren't really that good. What's the problem with giving teams that prove themselves a chance at what other schools get a chance at. And non-BCS schools might just generate a lot more income if they were given the same chance. Most of what's being said here by everyone is opinion.

WyoLaw 01-26-2009 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomCasual (Post 2267410)
You'll argue against the MWC, but feel fine with the Big East? Please.

My thoughts exactly.

La Caspa Del Diablo 01-26-2009 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomCasual (Post 2267461)
I'm not even that much of a MWC fan. I just think the BCS is a joke, and it's bad for sports. Despite having attended BYU, I could never get that excited about following a team you knew wouldn't have a real shot at winning the big prize.

I used to believe '84 BYU was the classic of example of how a mid-major could win a National Title. However, when the Cougars won it, it was an entirely different college football landscape. There were 20+ Independent teams at the time and there weren't any superconferences like you have today (SWC, Big 8, smaller SEC).

'08 Utah was a superior team to '84 BYU and they could only get a #4 ranking in the coaches. That ticked me off.

Division 1-A (FBS) should either let MWC, C-USA, WAC, MAC and Sun Belt into the fun or let them play at Division 1-AA (FCS) where they can actually compete for a title with Montana, Applachian St., Youngstown St., etc.

You're right, I don't see how having the mid-majors in their current purgatory benefits the fans of those programs. If you are a MAC program, the best you can do is earn a trip to lovely Detroit every December.

Pick Six 01-26-2009 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfpackGuy (Post 2267398)
No waiting for 9 months and you get a year's supply of Pampers.
I'm sure the ladies will love it.

LOL

24champ 01-26-2009 03:58 PM

Been saying for a while now....


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