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freak6 07-19-2007 11:58 AM

O.T. - Fatties overtaking America
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19845784/

75% of Americans will be overwieght in 7 years. 41% considered obese.

At least food companies are starting to change thier ad tactics that are geared towards children ie Lucky Charms, McDonalds, and others.

I look at the kids today I coach, and they are a different breed than I was. It's crazy how pudgy they all are, even at age 8-11.

Diabetes is gonna be running rampant in this country. Anyway, watch what you eat, excercise regularly, and Go Broncos!

freak6 07-19-2007 12:03 PM

An alarming 80 percent of black women aged 40 or over are overweight and 50 percent are obese.

vancejohnson82 07-19-2007 12:07 PM

that's crazy

i see it everyday, especially during the summer

when i was a kid, my friends and i (about 8 of us) would hop on our bikes and spend ALL DAY riding around, playing football, and doing other outside activities....nowadays, i dont see the fields being used by kids, nor do i see the amount of kids on bikes or anything

its the DAMN VIDEO GAMES!!!

haha

Garcia Bronco 07-19-2007 12:14 PM

Here in Denver...I don't see all that many. And is overweight considered by even 1 pound above the suggested level?

LDB 07-19-2007 12:18 PM

People need to shut the hell up, mind their own business, and let Bob eat his Baconator in peace.

Atlas 07-19-2007 12:21 PM

I really need to start working out again.

DomCasual 07-19-2007 12:24 PM

I could go for a couple bacon cheeseburgers with a large order of onion rings with fry sauce (a Utah specialty). I'm trying to get in shape for the release of Madden '08.

LDB 07-19-2007 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DomCasual (Post 1650972)
I could go for a couple bacon cheeseburgers with a large order of onion rings with fry sauce (a Utah specialty). I'm trying to get in shape for the release of Madden '08.

As long as you get a diet coke to go with it you will be fine. :thumbs:

Jason in LA 07-19-2007 12:36 PM

I'd say that people just don't care about their weight. It's become acceptible to be over weight because so many people are. I see some of my high school friends every now and then, and a lot of them have put on a lot of weight. There was this one girl that I messed around with, who had the perfect body back then, now she's like 30-40 lbs bigger. I was kind of upset at the way she was looking.

I don't see this problem going away. It's too easy to get over weight, and it takes a lot of work and restraint to stay in shape. Only once was I over weight. I just stopped working out for about a year and a half, and ate like crap. I didn't become obese, but my normaly weight was around 170 lbs, and I was up to 210 lbs. That 40 extra pounds wasn't muscle. Losing that weight was extremely hard, and keeping it off is just as hard because there is so much crappy food all over the place. It takes will power to eat right, and it takes will power not to skip workouts. Most people don't have that will power. They just let themselves go.

The problem will probably get worse, like the article stated.

Atwater His Ass 07-19-2007 12:36 PM

Although I agree that many beyond excuse are overweight in the USA, some of that BMI stuff seems a little far fetched.

Myself for example, I'm 6'4" and about 220 pounds. I'm in decent shape, not spectacular, but I could jog a few miles without falling over from exhasution. I exercise 3x a week that includes 40mins cardio and 30 mins weight training and I eat relatively healthy, i.e., lean beef, chicken, tons of fruits and vegatables, minimze alcohol, but I'll have the occasional Wendy's or McDonalds here and there. However, according to my bmi, I'm overweight and would need to drop 20lbs to 200 before I hit the top end of "normal weight". Hell, at 230lbs, I would be pushing "obese". I think it's different for everyone, and trying to generalize something like a bmi isn't a very good way to deteremine where you are.

There was a time when I was pushing 3 bills. So I know a little bit about turning things around. But I can tell you that it would take more commitment than I'm willing to give to drop another 20 lbs, and I think I'd look like starvin' marvin.

KipCorrington25 07-19-2007 12:37 PM

Boob is really a trend setter in this regard. He is so now.

KipCorrington25 07-19-2007 12:41 PM

BMI doesn't account for muscle mass at all. If you throw the weights around a little and build up some mass you'll start pushing the overweight limits pretty quickly.

Plug in and NFL running back or linebacker into one of those things and they will calculate as over weight. For example is Travis Henry obese? I mean he is afterall 5'9" and 215 so he must be fat, right?

Atwater His Ass 07-19-2007 12:43 PM

I get that kip. But in a lot of these studies (including this one), the bmi is what they use to base the statistics on and it's flawed.

KipCorrington25 07-19-2007 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Atwater His Ass (Post 1650998)
I get that kip. But in a lot of these studies (including this one), the bmi is what they use to base the statistics on and it's flawed.


Yes, I totally agree. That was the point I tried to make.

DenverBrit 07-19-2007 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 1650957)
Here in Denver...I don't see all that many. And is overweight considered by even 1 pound above the suggested level?

A few years ago, Denver was rated as having the 'lowest obesity rate' of any major metro area.
That was before the Texans arrived. ;D

freak6 07-19-2007 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KipCorrington25 (Post 1650996)
BMI doesn't account for muscle mass at all. Plug in and NFL running back or linebacker into one of those things and they will calculate as over weight. For example is Travis Henry obese? I mean he is afterall 5'9" and 215 so he must be fat, right?

Great point.

The only danger is with all that muscle mass, as they get older and metabolism slows down, they will be really huge once they do put on fat putting that additional work on the heart. Body Fat is a much better way to calculate though.

Jason - I feel you about that girl. I'm moving back to Colorado after being in SoCal for 4 years, and it isn't going to be pretty seeing all my friends from college, let alone HS!

DenverBrit 07-19-2007 12:51 PM

States Failing to Fight Rising Obesity Rates

Alabama has highest obesity rate, Colorado lowest

By Todd Zwillich
WebMD Medical News

Reviewed By Michael W. Smith, MD

Oct. 20, 2004 -- The nation's antiobesity policies lack coordination and are failing to curb the rising obesity rates, claims a report issued Wednesday by a nonprofit public health group.

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/ma...ticlekey=55837

NaptownChief 07-19-2007 12:52 PM

I'm outta here...I'm heading to the gym so that I don't end up one of those 80%'ers...

Jason in LA 07-19-2007 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atwater His Ass (Post 1650985)
Although I agree that many beyond excuse are overweight in the USA, some of that BMI stuff seems a little far fetched.

Myself for example, I'm 6'4" and about 220 pounds. I'm in decent shape, not spectacular, but I could jog a few miles without falling over from exhasution. I exercise 3x a week that includes 40mins cardio and 30 mins weight training and I eat relatively healthy, i.e., lean beef, chicken, tons of fruits and vegatables, minimze alcohol, but I'll have the occasional Wendy's or McDonalds here and there. However, according to my bmi, I'm overweight and would need to drop 20lbs to 200 before I hit the top end of "normal weight". Hell, at 230lbs, I would be pushing "obese". I think it's different for everyone, and trying to generalize something like a bmi isn't a very good way to deteremine where you are.

There was a time when I was pushing 3 bills. So I know a little bit about turning things around. But I can tell you that it would take more commitment than I'm willing to give to drop another 20 lbs, and I think I'd look like starvin' marvin.

You are exactly right. I'd say the BMI is a crap way of determining if somebody is overweight. If we go by the BMI, then I'm overweight. I'm 6', 185 lbs. My body fat % is less then 10%. I need do another body fat test to see exactly where I'm at. I've been working out to get my six pack. The only visible fat on me is on my lower abs. I do resistant training and eat a lot of protein. I don't have huge muscles, but I'm working with something.

I just did the BMI test on this website http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/bmi/...calculator.htm

It said that I have a BMI of 25.1. 25-29 is considered overweight.

I put in the numbers for Ian Gold http://denver.rockymountainnews.com/...05chiefs/8.jpg, who is a very lean guy. He has a BMI of 30.2, which makes obese.

I think that the BMI is used because it is a simple test. Most people don't have access to an accurate body fat test.

Atwater His Ass 07-19-2007 12:56 PM

Really though, it isn't that hard to maintain a healthy weight. You don't even really need to work out. Just eating right is about 80% of the battle. If you never exercised but ate the right foods, you would be amazed at what that would do for you. Exercising is just icing on the cake.

However, it's too easy in our society to get that fast meal for yourself and/or family. Until people take the oneous on themselves, it will never change.

Jason in LA 07-19-2007 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atwater His Ass (Post 1651018)
Really though, it isn't that hard to maintain a healthy weight. You don't even really need to work out. Just eating right is about 80% of the battle. If you never exercised but ate the right foods, you would be amazed at what that would do for you. Exercising is just icing on the cake.

However, it's too easy in our society to get that fast meal for yourself and/or family. Until people take the oneous on themselves, it will never change.

I agree that it's not hard, but it is way easier to not do it. So it does take a lot of will power. A person has to want it really bad, especially as they get older. A lot of people want to look good, but not that bad. Eating like crap and not working out is more enjoyable.

AtlantaBronco 07-19-2007 01:10 PM

That news doesn't sound very good for those in the dating pool.

Atwater His Ass 07-19-2007 01:11 PM

I agree Jason, people and will power just don't go together it seems. Hell, I have entire weeks sometimes when I don't work out and eat some bad stuff, it happens.

We've all seen those people that are severly obese at work or wherever, and it is just sickening. You see those people at McDonalds in their sweat pants and flip-flops. They have no pride and it's sad.

My roundabout point I suppose though, is just doing the small things on a consistent basis will add up. Stop drinking soda at work. Only eat out once a week. Bring a sandwhich and fruit from home for lunch instead of hitting up the burger stand. Pass on that donut. It's not like you have to totally reinvent your diet and routine all at once to see results. And once you start to see those results, you can start making more and more changes.

I used to keep my old belt when I was way overweight. I ended up putting like 15 new holes in it when I hit my target weight and threw it away. But it was a constant reminder and really helped motivate me to keep on when you really really really want that cheeseburger.

Atwater His Ass 07-19-2007 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtlantaBronco (Post 1651033)
That news doesn't sound very good for those in the dating pool.

Depends on which end your on. :)

freak6 07-19-2007 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atwater His Ass (Post 1651034)
But it was a constant reminder and really helped motivate me to keep on when you really really really want that cheeseburger.

Eat the burger, throw away the bun!


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