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cambrad8085 05-17-2006 02:36 AM

Champ Bailey making Priest Holmes his ragdoll...
 
Does anyone have this gif? I can't find it anymore.

Champ was still with the Redskins. Someone has to have it... :pray:

OrangeShadow 05-17-2006 05:56 PM

here you are

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/9...rpriest4kh.gif

watermock 05-30-2006 10:12 PM

Notice how Bailey doesn't get too low, instead, hitting just below the sternum right thru his groin so he doesn't get his bell rung with a knee to the helmet. You can't get more textbook than that.

Champ has a bunch of stand ups, and remarkably, DWill had a stand up against a much much bigger back.

Bob's your Information Minister 05-30-2006 11:26 PM

I'd like to see Chump try that against LJ.

BroncoMan4ever 05-31-2006 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister
I'd like to see Chump try that against LJ.

**** ur precious LJ is gonna get his ass kicked by CHAMP, AL, LYNCH and any other defensive member on the Denver Broncos.

Last season for that guy was a fluke; at best this year 1500yards and 10td's.

Also, if Champ did that to LJ it would probably kill him and send ur precious Chiefs into a few more years of mediocrity

crazyhorse 05-31-2006 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoMan4ever
**** ur precious LJ is gonna get his ass kicked by CHAMP, AL, LYNCH and any other defensive member on the Denver Broncos.

Last season for that guy was a fluke; at best this year 1500yards and 10td's.

Also, if Champ did that to LJ it would probably kill him and send ur precious Chiefs into a few more years of mediocrity

LJ singlehandedly beat your entire defense last time we met. In the 4th quarter, the donk defense was literally jumping out of the way. How else would LJ have gained 90 yards in the 4th quarter?

I'll bet the donk defense is not looking forward to going against LJ again.

A fluke doesn't plow through your chest and run to the end zone.

LJ beat the donks brains in. You should show more respect.

Rascal 05-31-2006 11:17 AM

LJ is a good back so I'm not going to diss his ability. Only question I have about him is being durable with his running style which lends itself to injuries. If he stays healthy he will be a top 5 back for sure (assuming Priest doesn't steal any carries if he returns).

crazyhorse 05-31-2006 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rascal
LJ is a good back so I'm not going to diss his ability. Only question I have about him is being durable with his running style which lends itself to injuries. If he stays healthy he will be a top 5 back for sure (assuming Priest doesn't steal any carries if he returns).


Priest "stole carries" for the 1st 7 games of the season. LJ still was a top 5 back.

Rascal 05-31-2006 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyhorse
Priest "stole carries" for the 1st 7 games of the season. LJ still was a top 5 back.

problem with that arguement is that it's pretty obvious that LJ is a 20+ carry back that needs those carries to be his best IMO. If it drops below that then I don't think he will be a top 5 back.

DeusExManning 05-31-2006 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyhorse
LJ singlehandedly beat your entire defense last time we met. In the 4th quarter, the donk defense was literally jumping out of the way. How else would LJ have gained 90 yards in the 4th quarter?

I'll bet the donk defense is not looking forward to going against LJ again.

A fluke doesn't plow through your chest and run to the end zone.

LJ beat the donks brains in. You should show more respect.

LJ was a product of Vermeils system which is going to change, Edwards does not have as complete an understanding and the Chiefs have a brand new offensive coordinator. Why did Priest Holmes, a virtual nobody, do so well before LJ? The system. Now the Redskins have it, expect them to show success.

LJ will gain 1100 yards, it will be a surprise.

Rascal 05-31-2006 11:53 AM

no way does LJ only get 1100 yards injury free.

Curtis Martin did pretty well with Edwards system BTW and it's a safe assumption to say the Chiefs have more offensive weapons then any of the NYJ in recent years.

crazyhorse 05-31-2006 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rascal
problem with that arguement is that it's pretty obvious that LJ is a 20+ carry back that needs those carries to be his best IMO. If it drops below that then I don't think he will be a top 5 back.

If LJ gets under 20 a game, I would be astounded.

crazyhorse 05-31-2006 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DeusExShanahan
LJ was a product of Vermeils system which is going to change, Edwards does not have as complete an understanding and the Chiefs have a brand new offensive coordinator. Why did Priest Holmes, a virtual nobody, do so well before LJ? The system. Now the Redskins have it, expect them to show success.

LJ will gain 1100 yards, it will be a surprise.

I am not sure I understand. LJ running over people was a by product of Vermiels system?

Besides, the new O coordinator is the old line coach who was responsible for the run game in the game plan. Your arguement is poorly thought out.

DeusExManning 05-31-2006 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyhorse
I am not sure I understand. LJ running over people was a by product of Vermiels system?

Besides, the new O coordinator is the old line coach who was responsible for the run game in the game plan. Your arguement is poorly thought out.

The line coach may be able to make adjustments on the line, but KC set up the run with passes to Gonzalez which pulled the safety to the opposite side of the field. The system was complex and just because you have the line coach it does not mean you have the same system. Game time adjustments and decisions played a huge role. This is not Edwards forte. My argument is well thought out. At Penn State, LJ was good but not great and that is what you will see in KC this year.

1100 yards is not terrible but he will not run for 2000 yards.

Rascal 05-31-2006 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyhorse
If LJ gets under 20 a game, I would be astounded.

Based on the lack of improvement with Priest I would agree.

OrangeShadow 05-31-2006 04:25 PM

I think LJ will get about 1600-1750 yards if he stays healthy. Losing richardson will hurt so we will see,but since when has KC's offense been a concern,its been the D

crazyhorse 05-31-2006 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DeusExShanahan
The line coach may be able to make adjustments on the line, but KC set up the run with passes to Gonzalez which pulled the safety to the opposite side of the field. The system was complex and just because you have the line coach it does not mean you have the same system. Game time adjustments and decisions played a huge role. This is not Edwards forte. My argument is well thought out. At Penn State, LJ was good but not great and that is what you will see in KC this year.

1100 yards is not terrible but he will not run for 2000 yards.

You really shouldn't try to talk football.

LJ ran for 2000 yards at Penn state didn't he? I am not a big college football guy, so I am willing to conceed a point or 2 for that reason. However, I think LJ was, in fact, great at Penn State.

The Chiefs system, however complex was run by the same O line with the same o line coach. Where do you see the complication?

If you think that we threw to Gonzo to open up the run game, you dont know what you're talking about. We ran to open up the passing game. LJ had 350 carries last season starting 9 games.

I dont expect him to run for 2000. Who would? But thats a far cry form 1100. I will say this, if there is any back that will run for 2000 next year, the chances are as good or better for LJ as any other back in the league.

Again, your post is poorly thought out.

crazyhorse 05-31-2006 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeShadow
I think LJ will get about 1600-1750 yards if he stays healthy. Losing richardson will hurt so we will see,but since when has KC's offense been a concern,its been the D

This is a much more reasonable statement.

crazyhorse 05-31-2006 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rascal
Based on the lack of improvement with Priest I would agree.

I really dont think Priest factors in, at this point. LJ will be the primary back, one way or the other.

cambrad8085 06-07-2006 05:11 AM

Hijacked :(

toad 06-08-2006 10:59 AM

Curtis Martin got the league rushing title 2 years ago as an old man in Herm's system...as much as I hate to say it, I think Herm will run LJ often.

Champ4prez 06-13-2006 09:54 AM

chefs better score fast and often as they can because you know that D is gonna give up at least 28 pts per game..i dont see LJ beasting out like last season, especially with richardson gone? good luck chefs
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ColtSteel25 06-13-2006 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Champ4prez
chefs better score fast and often as they can because you know that D is gonna give up at least 28 pts per game..i dont see LJ beasting out like last season, especially with richardson gone? good luck chefs
http://www.geocities.com/dawgpoundff...city_chefs.jpg


Our defense has improved, you know that, and it will continue to get better. DV had an obsession with playing vets that were on his good side but had no talent because they were "good people". Now we are playing the people that need to be played, and good results will come from that.

BTW I am optimistic to see how good your run defense will be with the loss of Pryce. He was huge in your Dline.

Inkana7 06-14-2006 09:15 AM

I just want to see how LJ can do playing all of 16 games. A lot of that magnificent 9 game stretch was the fact that he had fresh legs.

SureShot 06-15-2006 08:01 PM

LJ flat out scares me. However as a team the Chefs don't. Herm is overated, and would keep me up at night as the Broncos head coach


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