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Kerry isn't winning this one. No way no how.

Once again, becuase Kerry has so much difficulty managing his own message, Bush is able to attack him on the $87 billion dollar deal. How many months is Kerry going to let this attack go unchallenged?

Kerry is washed up. This thing is over...

i disagree. sadly i think kerry is going to win by 4-5 points.

too bad the Today show wont release the Video of Bush saying we wont win it ( meaning the war on terror )

alot can still happen , Either way The best man ( mcCain ) is sitting on the sideline

I think it'll be a landslide for Bush... Kerry has let too many attacks go unchallenged. He has too much ground to make up, and the heat is on. Bush is going to get a 4-6 point bump out of this. And Rove has more tricks up his sleeve.

Kerry needed to be casting doubt going into this convention. The only doubt cast was on himself and his ability to lead...

The ONLY thing that will save Kerry right now is if it is discovered that there was impropriety in the Bush Administration surrounding 9/11... Uh... Good luck with that.

Bush said the next day that it was not what he meant. He said that this war isn't going to the peace table anytime soon. It wasn't a misquote, but it was clearly a misrepresentation of what he meant. Typical fauxpau but if that's what your going to hang your hat on when he clarified his statement the next day, man, Kerry is in trouble.

Kerry wasted no time making his own ad which was nothing more than a mix up on words, not something Bush is unknown for.

I hope the Kerry campaign enjoys spending it's money for superfluous ads. That ad won't last a week.

They would do better attacking Zell Miller, a Democrat.

Of course Bush would say that come on Mock you are not that stupid , Bush saw what a Mistake he made , and then ran out and said thats not what I meant ......

But either way Mock the Today show wont release the video , so I guess it is a moot point ......

The Today show did release it on of all places....The Today Show....after qoutes the previous day from other media, he was quoted with his lips actually moving that there will always be terrorism of some kind...any one that thinks there won't be is grasping for straws to discredit

oh I see ......... Funny though When I saw it on my TV , it sure did look like Bush said that . amazing what they can do on TV aint it ..........

I read the transcript Spider and I gotta tell you, I think the media spun it. All sides. Or at least they misunderstood the context of what he said.

He said he didn't think we could win the war on terror. He also went on to say that it's one of those things that if left unchecked, would spiral out of control(paraphrase).

In essence, he was saying "No, we cant win, terrorists will always exist, but we HAVE to fight them or they go unchecked and do even more damage than they would had we went out and kicked their asses."

This is an example where people hear what they want to hear. When I heard it told I was like "That stupid mother ****er. I cant believe he said that." Then I read the article, going in biased AGAINST Bush cause he is an idiot, and realized the context of the words he ACTUALLY said as opposed to what has been misquoted (at least in the sense of the context).

Now had Kerry said this same thing and I read the exact same quote I would be in here defending that too. Its not what they meant when they said it and the god damn reporters KNEW it.

I did not see the Today show btw, I am going off QUOTES from two articles (CNN and FoxNews articles) I read.

That could be Bro , I am not realy worried about it , just playing Devils advocate here ;D
Actually with Football here , I just cant get into the Politics ..... I tried though ;D ..........
Good luck to who ever wins the election .........

Everyone hears what they want to hear....all I want to hear from here on out is Chiefs LOSE opener!!

;D same here I want Q to bust over a 100 vs the Chiefs or I will be flying a funky avatar

This is the politics forum isnt it?

LOL Alec

McCain isn't the best man by a long shot....sorry Spide.

..and this thing is far from over....but Kerry needs to "fire back" ASAP and soon to offset the charges made against him and nip any kind of momentum this Convention might have spawned.....the next few days will be critical for the DNC campaign.

I recant... I think Kerry has one final chance to win it... We'll know by mid-September if he's got a shot. If he's counting on the debates to bail him out, he's already lost.

CNN Quickvote: Did Bush make his case for a second term in office?

Yes 42% 4066 votes

No 58% 5561 votes

http://www.cnn.com/

I think he lost it tonight.........Kerry had his chance to get a big bump from the DNC, but he blew it.

Even his responses tonight were just the same ole rant as usual, nothing new with some statisics thrown in there. That is good senate debate politics, but not good presidential politics.

Kerry is going to lose this election more handily than I first thought.

Thats cool Bro , McCain may not be the best man as far as your concerned , and thats fine , one thing I will add then I wil shut up about him , He had a chance to come home from the Hanoi Hilton , He refused untill all the POW were released ......... That says alot about the man

Bye-bye Kerry...

Yeah it does and that's respectable....but if you check out his voting record, you'd find someone who is solidly conservative and far to the right on nearly all the issues.

I have no problem with the man's service or how he conduct's himself publically....it's the conservative agenda I despise and he is an extreme conservative in moderate's clothing........I was willing to give him a chance until I researched him, now, there's no way in hell I will....look at the voting record and his political history and you'll find that out as well.

Ihave to agree with you there , I would love a McCain Presidency and a democrat controled house , that would keep McCain a moderate ;D

Kerry blew it when he assumed that there was enough anti-Bush sentiment to get him elected. That's why he said nothing in his speech at the DNC Convention about what he would do as President. He left the door wide open