Smear Boat Veterans for Bush Falsehoods
 

Comprehensive fact checking and rebuttal of claims made by Smear Boat Veterans for Bush here:

http://www.johnkerry.com/rapidrespon...uth.html#false

http://www.bartcop.com/heroes-lost-k.jpg

That is literally pathetic.

What's wrong mock, You can't handle the truth?

it's from johnkerry.com...... of course they think they rebutted them, I'll wait for n independent, non self-serving rebuttal.

truth from Kerry? BWAAAA!!!!

I don't really care about this story anymore. I'm waiting for the real mud: Kerry fathered an alien, illegitimate, black child! I'm sure Rove is working on this. He just has to figure out the most effective way to leak it through the 527s. Maybe a push poll, like they used against McCain.

funny, the left has so many more 527's and there's a 527 questioning Kerry and you try and brush it off as mud.. rofl.

Aw come on. You know that the Dem 527s are just performing the difficult task of getting the truth out to the American people that the right wing media refuses to cover, while the right wing 527s only engage in smear campaigns.
:~ohyah!:

Of course you don't care. Rocks don't burn.

Well that's Ro's parting shot. It is a weakling oscar mayer shot at that. He seems to think Kerry is an alien, fathered a racist black child and hired Rove. He throws in a 527 and McCain for good measure. It's truly pathetic and makes me seethe.

WTF is this guy even ranting about?

Your a total idiot

Make an argument dipwad. And don't give me the sarcasm routine dimwit.

Go make an argument.

Even for someone of your advanced age, even with the senility, reading comprehension classes are still being offered.

Not at all. You continue to play a game that you don't even understand. Sarcasm has no place in reality you ****head.

Sit up and stand straight you dimwit and bring your case.

WTf are you talking about. It's an open deal. Your so full of crap it's funny.

WTF are you even trying to say?

YOur the one bringing up 527's and seem to think all of a sudden they are illegal.

527's only are right wing? YOur ****ing crazy and delusional

Do you even have a clue how much money was placed into Moveon.org there genius?

Do you know who the chief contributor was? Hey Moron. Got it yet, go look it up.

Do you think that Swiftboats.org has 700 million for a 527 campaign?

Why not grow a clue.

You think I am done with you?

I'm just starting.

Well, like McCain said, this whole attack is "dishonest and dishonorable." I agree with him. I will treat the whole thing like the joke it is.

I see your humor meant in this post.. :thumbsup: :kubiak:

there is another false premise in this thread. LABF states Smear Boat Veterans for Bush Falsehoods.

Where is the proof or even suggestion that this comes from Bush? Once again LABF tries to deceive us with his Bush hatred. These guys have nothing to do with Bush.

Another lie by LABF Moore.

More on the deceits and outright lies of the Swiftvets...

http://www.eriposte.com/media/liars_inc/swiftboat.htm

FACT
(i) Kerry could NOT have gotten his Purple Heart without his Commander's recommendation. Indeed, regulations do not allow combatants to nominate themselves Purple Hearts or award it to themselves.
(ii) The severity of the injury is irrelevant to the award of a Purple Heart. The injury had to be sustained due to an outside force or in action against an enemy or hostile foreign force - or even from friendly fire. So SBV's claims are outrageous and without merit.

Your kidding me right? It says right there that Kerry himself asked for the purple heart. Normally, it's a recomendation. Show me a recomendation Blue. Go on. It's allready admitted it was friendly fire by Kerry himself. That doesn't disqualify him. Simply marching in and demanding a purple heart is pathetic. We have thousands of men fighting in Iraq and Afganistan the shrug off this kind of thing.

Van O'Dell, a former Navy enlisted man who says he was the gunner on another Swift Boat, states in his affidavit that he was "a few yards away" from Kerry's boat on March 13, 1969 when Kerry pulled one of his crewmen from the water. According to the official medal citations, Kerry's boat was under enemy fire at the time, and Kerry had been wounded when an enemy mine exploded near his own boat. O'Dell insists "there was no fire" at the time, adding: "I did not hear any shots, nor did any hostile fire hit any boats" other than his own, PCF-3.
Others in the ad back up that account. Jack Chenoweth, who was a Lieutenant (junior grade) commanding PCF-3, said Kerry's boat "fled the scene" after a mine blast disabled PCF-3, and returned only later "when it was apparent that there was no return fire." And Larry Thurlow, who says he commanded a third Swift Boat that day, says "Kerry fled while we stayed to fight," and returned only later "after no return fire occurred."

Again, don't take what a man says seriously. Fact is, it was in a battle condition. This hasn't been contested that Kerry helped another boat. Noone claims the event never happened. Again, it's Kerry that is blowing his own horn in this campaign.

What was Kerry supposed to do? Turn tail? To do anything other than what he supposedly did, (pick up the wounded) would be cowardice. Recardless, he deserves the Purple Heart in this instance of saving lives. Again, this isn't even an issue. You act like he was operating in a vacume.

Finally the 3rd, from your own site.

In any case, even a "friendly fire" injury can qualify for a purple heart "as long as the 'friendly' projectile or agent was released with the full intent of inflicting damage or destroying enemy troops or equipment," according to the website of the Military Order of the Purple Heart. All agree that rice was being destroyed that day on the assumption that it otherwise might feed Viet Cong fighters.

So what is the point? From his 3 purple hearts, it seems like your own source shows that he was hit more often from friendly fire than the enemy.

The point still remains that people who served with him were totally unimpressed with is capability as a Junior Grade LT.

They do seem to pop up regularly on Bush's trail - let's put it that way. The two guys who seem to be running this show (from the PR perspective) are former operatives of Pat Buchanan and Pat Robertson. The money is coming from old Bush cohorts (supporters) in Texas. O'Neill was a Nixon operative. The PR guys were involved in the Cleland/McCain smear jobs. So? 2+2.

That's funny. Rasmussen, the guy who was saved, said there were bullets pinging off the water as Kerry was pulling him out. I guess it's just who you want to believe. Of course, the guys getting funded by Bushcorp.Inc for their testimony are a little more suspect.

If our media was doing it's job investigating both sides of every story, a lot of these 527's would be moot.

Moveon.org got millions from George Soros and his partner.

The Swift boats 527 got 150 grand from some Bush backer in TX.