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Taco John 07-29-2004 08:16 PM

John Kerry Acceptance Speech Thread...
 
He did himself some favors with that speech...

Maximus 07-29-2004 08:38 PM

I agree 100% I'm watching it again on Tivo right now

OrangeDoofus 07-29-2004 08:43 PM

Nothing spectacular. I think mostly he played it safe, which was a smart move.

What was up with the sweat, though? You'd think they would make sure the podium area was at a comfortable temperature.

Mile High Shack 07-29-2004 08:44 PM

he looked like Richard Nixon there with that sweating.

Spider 07-29-2004 08:48 PM

I watched the Speech ........... Clearly a home run ........... But with me he is preaching to the choir ........ The Untied America , the Flag , War on Terror 40 thousand new troops , Getting help in Iraq , Health Care , Health insurence , JOBS ... are all very important issues to me .......

Spider 07-29-2004 08:49 PM

And most of all I am proud to be a democrat .........

Hercules Rockefeller 07-29-2004 08:52 PM

Great move saying that families won't have to take up collections to buy body armor for their loved ones if you're President. Didn't you and Edwards both vote against the $87 billion Iraq appropriations bill? There's a campaign commercial for Bush.

Spider 07-29-2004 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller
Great move saying that families won't have to take up collections to buy body armor for their loved ones if you're President. Didn't you and Edwards both vote against the $87 billion Iraq appropriations bill? There's a campaign commercial for Bush.

Oh Kerry will handle that just fine , but keep throwing it out , after all what else do you have ?

Hercules Rockefeller 07-29-2004 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by §PideŽ
Oh Kerry will handle that just fine , but keep throwing it out , after all what else do you have ?

His voting record on defense and intelligence, 19 years in the Senate where he sponsored no major legislation, his "I'm not George Bush" speech tonight, and his comment about going to his website to see where he stands on issues. Silly me, I thought the whole point of this speech was to see where he stands on the issues.

Bush has more then enough stuff to go after Kerry on.

Spider 07-29-2004 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller
His voting record on defense and intelligence, 19 years in the Senate where he sponsored no major legislation, his "I'm not George Bush" speech tonight, and his comment about going to his website to see where he stands on issues. Silly me, I thought the whole point of this speech was to see where he stands on the issues.

Bush has more then enough stuff to go after Kerry on.

LOL ........ Sure thing ........ you did get one thing right ..... Silly you

Sideburn 07-29-2004 09:06 PM

It was a pretty good speech. It had some nice moments to it. But now he's got the task of explaining how he is going to do this. We know what he wants to do, but how is he going to do it. I want to crap 100 dollar bills. Now I have to find out how I'm going to do it. Bringing up misleading into war was a simple thing to bring up to keep the left elite. Even tho his running mate was on the intelligence committee and saw the same info Bush did. Both signed off on it with no problem after seeing the same intelligence that Bush did. But whatever... Cleland gave a nice opening for him aswell. Overall, it was an eventful night for the DNC and Kerry. Now it's time to see how big of a boost he gets with it.

Spider 07-29-2004 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sideburn
It was a pretty good speech. It had some nice moments to it. But now he's got the task of explaining how he is going to do this. We know what he wants to do, but how is he going to do it. I want to crap 100 dollar bills. Now I have to find out how I'm going to do it. Bringing up misleading into war was a simple thing to bring up to keep the left elite. Even tho his running mate was on the intelligence committee and saw the same info Bush did. Both signed off on it with no problem after seeing the same intelligence that Bush did. But whatever... Cleland gave a nice opening for him aswell. Overall, it was an eventful night for the DNC and Kerry. Now it's time to see how big of a boost he gets with it.

Agreed , now Kerry has to show how he will pay for all of this .......

Sideburn 07-29-2004 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by §PideŽ
Agreed , now Kerry has to show how he will pay for all of this .......

Maybe he already has a plan on how to crap hundred dollar bills.

Crushaholic 07-29-2004 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by §PideŽ
I watched the Speech ........... Clearly a home run ........... But with me he is preaching to the choir ........ The Untied America , the Flag , War on Terror 40 thousand new troops , Getting help in Iraq , Health Care , Health insurence , JOBS ... are all very important issues to me .......

I'm sure he didn't make the portion of the Democratic base who wants us to bring our troops home very happy. 40 thousand new troops? Where is he going to get that? Bush is having to extend tours of duty BECAUSE we can't find enough people willing to go fight the war on terror.

enjolras 07-29-2004 09:33 PM

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Great move saying that families won't have to take up collections to buy body armor for their loved ones if you're President. Didn't you and Edwards both vote against the $87 billion Iraq appropriations bill? There's a campaign commercial for Bush.
The body armor was less than 1/3 of 1 percent of that bill. That whole thing is such spin it's unbeleivable. Kerry essentially opposed spending 87 BILLION dollars (that we don't actually have) on the military action in Iraq. He wasn't saying 'I want to screw our soldiers and put them in danger', but rather saying that spending 87 billion dollars wasn't in the best interests of the country. There was a lot of debate on the Senate floor surrounding this bill, with a compromises that the Republicans refused to hear.To take 0.33% of 87 billion and say that somehow Kerry is anti-soldier is an incredible logical leap.

It's also interesting to note that even though Bush received his $87 billion, 40,000 soldiers still went to Iraq without that much ballyhooed body armor anyways.

Hogan11 07-29-2004 09:39 PM

That was one of his best performances that I've seen and while he touched favorably on issues that are important to me, I'm still not sure it was enough to sway me from voting Libertarian in November......the jury remains out till the debates.

Bad move asking W and the GOP for civility and taking the high road....the W & GOP are basically incapable of doing that and haven't done it in many years. The vicious attack strategy works well, I fully expect them to stick with it and accellerate it if the election remains close or W falls behind in the polls.

Crushaholic 07-29-2004 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hogan11
Bad move asking W and the GOP for civility and taking the high road....the W & GOP are basically incapable of doing that and haven't done it in many years. The vicious attack strategy works well, I fully expect them to stick with it and accellerate it if the election remains close or W falls behind in the polls.

The Democrats keep going on and on whining about the election of 2000. They say Bush lied (or misled) about WMD without taking Bush's word that it was just bad intelligence. F 9/11 takes so many things out of context that it isn't even funny. The Democrats unofficially endorsed the movie by allowing Moore to sit in the presidential box with Carter. I could go on and on, but are you saying all this adds up to a model of civility and taking the high road?

Hercules Rockefeller 07-29-2004 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hogan11
Bad move asking W and the GOP for civility and taking the high road....the W & GOP are basically incapable of doing that and haven't done it in many years. The vicious attack strategy works well, I fully expect them to stick with it and accellerate it if the election remains close or W falls behind in the polls.

So did Kerry make that plea before or after he bashed Bush for most of the speech? If Kerry wants the race to be run like that, shouldn't he practice what he preach? Shouldn't you be calling Kerry out for that same thing Hogan? Wouldn't want you to be a hypocrite.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN 07-29-2004 10:02 PM

And most of all I am proud to be a democrat .........

Amen!

Never before has the contrast been so apparent:

We get to choose between a decorated veteran/genuine war hero/proven leader who has been tested under fire and a lazy, never-worked-a-day-in-his-life, AWOL-going, drunken FRAUD!

Go Kerry/Edwards!

Hogan11 07-29-2004 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Crushaholic
The Democrats keep going on and on whining about the election of 2000. They say Bush lied (or misled) about WMD without taking Bush's word that it was just bad intelligence. F 9/11 takes so many things out of context that it isn't even funny. The Democrats unofficially endorsed the movie by allowing Moore to sit in the presidential box with Carter. I could go on and on, but are you saying all this adds up to a model of civility and taking the high road?

I didn't hear a lot of negative/low road attacks come out of this convention or from Kerry or Edwards....did you??

I don't expect the GOP, W or Cheney to accept Kerry's offer of civility and high road politics....do you??

We'll see come time for their convention...I'll honestly be shocked if the GOP one stays away from the negative...utterly shocked.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN 07-29-2004 10:05 PM

I don't expect the GOP, W or Cheney to accept Kerry's offer of civility and high road politics....do you??

Too late for that.

Smirk (unlike Kerry) has already personally endorsed about $80 million worth of negative attack ads.

Rove knows that keeping AWOL Boy's actual record as far away from the debate as possible is the only way the repukes can hope to win.

Hogan11 07-29-2004 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller
So did Kerry make that plea before or after he bashed Bush for most of the speech? If Kerry wants the race to be run like that, shouldn't he practice what he preach? Shouldn't you be calling Kerry out for that same thing Hogan? Wouldn't want you to be a hypocrite.

Illustrating differences is now bashing eh?

Sorry Herc, I didn't hear muckraking in Kerry's speech tonight.

Blueflame 07-29-2004 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller
So did Kerry make that plea before or after he bashed Bush for most of the speech? If Kerry wants the race to be run like that, shouldn't he practice what he preach? Shouldn't you be calling Kerry out for that same thing Hogan? Wouldn't want you to be a hypocrite.

On the subject of "civility hypocrisy", hasn't the Bush campaign already spent close to $100 million on attack ads?

Hercules Rockefeller 07-29-2004 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueflame
On the subject of "civility hypocrisy", hasn't the Bush campaign already spent close to $100 million on attack ads?

Sorry Blue, but the 512 groups (whatever the number is) like Move-On combined with the Kerry campaign have outspent the Bush campaign on advertising.

Pezman 07-29-2004 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueflame
On the subject of "civility hypocrisy", hasn't the Bush campaign already spent close to $100 million on attack ads?

:saywhat: Wow... I guess 100mil doesn't spread out like it used to eh? By November, that figure could be tripled...


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