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rosco 07-19-2004 04:17 PM

One more reason
 
Are you kidding me! 800+ soldiers die just to find out they attacked the wrong country. This administration is a Joke! That's another reason to vote against Bush.

Northman 07-19-2004 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rosco
Are you kidding me! 800+ soldiers die just to find out they attacked the wrong country. This administration is a Joke! That's another reason to vote against Bush.


well, there's a word for them ' Warmongers '.

Blueflame 07-19-2004 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Anubis_Zyklon
well, there's a word for them ' Warmongers '.

Well, Halliburton is making billions in profits from the war....

rosco 07-19-2004 05:13 PM

Brings to mind the quote "It's the economy,stupid" Except this time the quote is "It's Iran,stupid"

L.A. BRONCOS FAN 07-19-2004 05:42 PM

Are you kidding me! 800+ soldiers die just to find out they attacked the wrong country. This administration is a Joke! That's another reason to vote against Bush.

Bingo.

:)

Rohirrim 07-19-2004 06:31 PM

What was it that Kerry once asked?

How do you ask a man to be the last one to die for a mistake?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN 07-19-2004 06:41 PM

How do you ask a man to be the last one to die for a mistake?

It's easy when you're a never-worked-a-day-in-your-life, AWOL-going fraud like Dim Son.

watermock 07-20-2004 02:19 AM

Nice Circle Jerk. Everyone got their shot in.

One at a time.

Rosko:

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Are you kidding me! 800+ soldiers die just to find out they attacked the wrong country. This administration is a Joke! That's another reason to vote against Bush.
Now it's the wrong country? A mass terrorist.

Blue:

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Well, Halliburton is making billions in profits from the war.
41 killed, and the US didn't have a single contract before the invasion.[/quote]

watermock 07-20-2004 02:20 AM

This is a circle jerk.

Blueflame 07-20-2004 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by watermock
Nice Circle Jerk. Everyone got their shot in.

One at a time.

Rosko:



Now it's the wrong country? A mass terrorist.

Blue:



41 killed, and the US didn't have a single contract before the invasion.

I notice that you didn't challenge the initial point... that Halliburton is making billions of $$$ from the war.

Attempted deflection unsuccessful....

rosco 07-20-2004 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by watermock
Nice Circle Jerk. Everyone got their shot in.

One at a time.

Rosko:



Now it's the wrong country? A mass terrorist.

Blue:



41 killed, and the US didn't have a single contract before the invasion.

[/QUOTE]
This is a war against terrorism/state sponsored terrorism.Iran is known for sponsoring terrorism as well as assisting 8 or 9 of the hijackers on 9/11 getting into the U.S. Iran is the real threat considering that there's real credible evidence that they have the capability to produce WMD.
Unfortunately Bush was so dead set on Iraq for personal reasons that he dropped the ball when he had a chance to get to the real threat.
This may go down as one of the biggest presidential blunders of all time.

football idiot 07-20-2004 01:54 PM

show me where Hal is making billions? you think they're getting crazy margins? if they take a billion dollar construction contract, they're on the hook for getting a billion dollars in construction done in a war zone. a) it's not fun work, b) it's dangerous, and c) even if you get things done on time, on budget, and make a 4 or 5% profit, some terrorist is likely to come and screw things up for you, meaning you have to start all over again.

I love when people that have no idea about how business works go on and on about big companies getting big tax breaks or war profiteering.

I'd like to know if there are any numbers for the profits of Hal? Or is this more baseless accusations that certain head-in-the-sand folks like to spout?

it's dangerous work that needs to be done by trained professionals. There are 2 or 3 countries in the world qualified to make a reputable bid on these jobs. I'd rather see these contracts going to American companies creating American jobs, than going to the Arabs, or French, or other global conglomerates.

But capitalism is EVIL and big corporations are EVIL and if anybody gets paid a billion dollars to do anything, they must be EVIL! I love the logic here.

RaiderH8r 07-20-2004 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueflame
I notice that you didn't challenge the initial point... that Halliburton is making billions of $$$ from the war.

Attempted deflection unsuccessful....

Name another company qualified to do the work that Halliburton does over there. (Hint: It's not just flipping burgers)

Blueflame 07-20-2004 02:11 PM

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5333896/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...912515,00.html

Rascal 07-20-2004 02:23 PM

okay the first story talks about how halliburton was trying to get away with paying 500 dollars for a toilet bowl cover, but how the government is taking care of it by withholding money. And the second story talks about something that came out in 2000 and everybody knew about. So he decided to have his compensation spread out over several years, sold his stock, and arranged for the profits to be given to charity.

What's the problem? Sounds like a good guy arranging to have all of his profits given to charity. Do you think Kerry or Edwards did that?

Blueflame 07-20-2004 03:38 PM

FI asked me to provide proof that Halliburton is making billions of $$... the first link states that the no-bid contracts were for $18 billion.

fuzzy 07-20-2004 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by watermock
This is a circle jerk.

everyone aim at mock!

;D

Exile_In_SJ 07-20-2004 04:33 PM

So what if Haliburton is making millions? What other US company does their kind of work? Did you know the Clinton Administration sent tons of money in contracts their way also throughout the years?

And the wrong country wasn't attacked. The right country was attacked and more countries will be attacked First Afghanistan was attacked and liberated, then Iraq attacked and liberated, next on the list? Either Syria or Iran...

What strikes me as amusing by you lefties, is how you attack the intelligence on Iraq and yet unquestioningly accept some intelligence on iran. Looks like selective acceptance to me.

fuzzy 07-20-2004 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Exile_In_SJ
And the wrong country wasn't attacked. The right country was attacked and more countries will be attacked First Afghanistan was attacked and liberated, then Iraq attacked and liberated, next on the list? Either Syria or Iran...

then lets go get north korea... and then why not china.

::)

fuzzy 07-20-2004 06:45 PM

the republican in me is getting very aroused by listening to all this talk about death and war.

Exile_In_SJ 07-21-2004 05:54 PM

Sure if you want a world war with China, we can go right into North Korea.

A smart man picks his battles, and contrary to the left-wingnuts, Bush is far from dumb and a very good Politician..

mosca 07-21-2004 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Exile_In_SJ
What strikes me as amusing by you lefties, is how you attack the intelligence on Iraq and yet unquestioningly accept some intelligence on iran. Looks like selective acceptance to me.

this is what an election year brings out in some people...

Hercules Rockefeller 07-21-2004 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueflame
FI asked me to provide proof that Halliburton is making billions of $$... the first link states that the no-bid contracts were for $18 billion.

and what fantasy world do you live in that businesses are able to operate without cost? Halliburton didn't make $18 billion from that contract. Your first post said Halliburton was making billions in profits.

Hercules Rockefeller 07-21-2004 06:56 PM

oh and your article talking about Cheney's deferred compensation Blue, the Guardian article fails to mention that Cheney agreed to defer some of his salary in '98 or '99, well before he was ever considered for VP.

Blueflame 07-22-2004 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller
and what fantasy world do you live in that businesses are able to operate without cost? Halliburton didn't make $18 billion from that contract. Your first post said Halliburton was making billions in profits.

You don't think they're making obscene profits when they're charging the American taxpayer $45 for providing the troops with a case of soda? Wow.


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