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mhgaffney 11-26-2013 10:42 AM

US most violent western nation - by wide margin
 
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Given the reactionary attitudes so prevalent here, I was not surprised by this latest survey of 17 western nations.

We lead the western world in deaths by violence.

The US also ranks last in health in a survey of 17 nations. MHG

New Health Rankings: Of 17 Nations, U.S. Is Dead Last

GRACE RUBENSTEIN

JAN 10 2013, 2:04 PM



http://www.theatlantic.com/health/ar...d-last/267045/

Pony Boy 11-26-2013 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mhgaffney (Post 3981675)
US most violent western nation - by wide margin

Pure BS it's only because other countries are not good at playing the knockout game ....... it will catch on like soccer did.

Dr. Broncenstein 11-26-2013 11:32 AM

Mexico must be a third world country. And it's amazing that with no border enforcement from said violent third world country along the south, a pointless drug war, and minimal punishment for violent crimes outside of capital murder proven beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury of high-functioning retards that the violent crime mortality isn't higher.

Arkie 11-26-2013 12:42 PM

Japan gets the title of most non-violent western country all the way from the east!

DenverBrit 11-26-2013 04:58 PM

The survey spotlights 'affluent' nations, not 'western,'but Gaff can't help himself, accuracy is not one of his virtues.

nyuk nyuk 11-26-2013 07:35 PM

UK is violent crime capital of Europe

The United Kingdom is the violent crime capital of Europe and has one of the highest rates of violence in the world, worse even than America, according to new research.


Analysis of figures from the European Commission showed a 77 per cent increase in murders, robberies, assaults and sexual offences in the UK since Labour came to power.


The total number of violent offences recorded compared to population is higher than any other country in Europe, as well as America, Canada, Australia and South Africa.


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If you're topping South Africa, you're seriously screwed.

DenverBrit 11-26-2013 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk (Post 3981980)
UK is violent crime capital of Europe

The United Kingdom is the violent crime capital of Europe
and has one of the highest rates of violence in the world, worse even than America, according to new research.



Analysis of figures from the European Commission showed a 77 per cent increase in murders, robberies, assaults and sexual offences in the UK since Labour came to power.


The total number of violent offences recorded compared to population is higher than any other country in Europe, as well as America, Canada, Australia and South Africa.


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If you're topping South Africa, you're seriously screwed.

Makes a nice sensational headline from 2009.
However, whenever the opposition party compiles the data, just before an election year, you have to look closer. Both parties like to use crime stats as a political football.

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A breakdown of the statistics, which were compiled into league tables by the Conservatives,
revealed that violent crime in the UK had increased from 652,974 offences in 1998 to more than 1.15 million crimes in 2007.
Research how the UK reports 'violent' crime. The criteria used is very different from the EU and the US.
But both countries are too violent, no matter how the data is manipulated.

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Fact-Checking Ben Swann: Is the UK really 5 times more violent than the US?
“In the UK there are 2,034 violent crimes per 100,000 people. …The US has a violent crime rate of 466 [violent] crimes per 100,000 residents.”


Besides the misleading data Swann used, it’s interesting to note the statistics he didn’t give you. For instance, Swann correctly pointed out that it is no surprise the UK has fewer shooting deaths than the US, since handguns are almost totally banned. But he neglects to mention that Britain doesn’t just have fewer gun-related homicides–it has a dramatically lower murder rate all around. In 2010, the US had an average murder rate of 4.8 murders per 100,000 people–4 times higher than the UK’s rate of 1.2 per 100,000, and, coincidentally, the exact opposite of the impression that Swann gives viewers.

The British Home Office, by contrast, has a substantially different definition of violent crime. The British definition includes all “crimes against the person,”
including simple assaults, all robberies, and all “sexual offenses,” as opposed to the FBI, which only counts aggravated assaults and “forcible rapes.”
But of the 871,000 crimes against the person, less than half (401,000) involved any actual injury.
The remainder were mostly crimes like simple assault without injury, harassment, “possession of an article with a blade or point,” and causing “public fear, alarm, or distress.”
And of the 54,000 sexual offenses, only a quarter (15,000) were rapes.
This makes it abundantly clear that the naive comparison of crime rates either wildly overstates the amount of violence in the UK or wildly understates it in the US.

Violent crime in the UK has been in decline since 1995
http://i2.wp.com/blog.skepticalliber...81-to-2007.png

And it’s also worth noting that while Swann implied that the UK is more violent than the US because of its handgun ban,
violent crime has been declining in Britain since the mid-1990s, and it continued to do so without interruption after the 1997
Firearms Amendment went into effect.

http://blog.skepticallibertarian.com...t-than-the-us/

cutthemdown 11-27-2013 09:49 AM

Countries all report stuff different so it's hard to compare. No doubt though we have way too much violence. The problem is we let criminals carry guns and citizens be the fodder.

cutthemdown 11-27-2013 09:52 AM

For instance when it comes to infant mortality is hard to compare because America reports any baby that lives for even a few minutes as having lived. So if it dies it counts as an infant death. While other countries would call that a still birth.

Garcia Bronco 11-27-2013 10:16 AM

Yeah...I'll remember that the next time I see a Arab community rock and beat the snot out of some girl for not wearing a burka.

peacepipe 11-27-2013 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown (Post 3982137)
Countries all report stuff different so it's hard to compare. No doubt though we have way too much violence. The problem is we let criminals carry guns and citizens be the fodder.

maybe you should call your local congressman and tell him to support stricter/better BG checks.

Bob 11-27-2013 06:38 PM

Keep playing Grand Theft Auto and this will all get much better I am sure...

mhgaffney 11-28-2013 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 3982156)
Yeah...I'll remember that the next time I see a Arab community rock and beat the snot out of some girl for not wearing a burka.

Yet -- you have remained silent on the issue -- and therefore by your silence indicate your approval that Israel is stealing oil from the Palestinian West Bank.

They are drilling for oil on Arab land.

Not a word here in protest.

MHG

Johnykbr 11-29-2013 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mhgaffney (Post 3982545)
Yet -- you have remained silent on the issue -- and therefore by your silence indicate your approval that Israel is stealing oil from the Palestinian West Bank.

They are drilling for oil on Arab land.

Not a word here in protest.

MHG

Let me guess, you don't celebrate Thanksgiving because of the genocide of the indigenous people of North America, right?

DenverBrit 11-29-2013 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnykbr (Post 3982770)
Let me guess, you don't celebrate Thanksgiving because of the genocide of the indigenous people of North America, right?

You'll confuse Gaffo, he lives on stolen land. :spit:

mhgaffney 11-29-2013 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnykbr (Post 3982770)
Let me guess, you don't celebrate Thanksgiving because of the genocide of the indigenous people of North America, right?

Of course I celebrate it. Despite everything, we have a lot to be thankful for.

MHG

cutthemdown 11-30-2013 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by peacepipe (Post 3982300)
maybe you should call your local congressman and tell him to support stricter/better BG checks.

background checks just don't stop thug A from buying a weapon from thug B. How do background checks keep guns from criminals?

cutthemdown 11-30-2013 10:27 AM

Best thing would be to modernize prisons. We need to hold more violent criminals with less guards. We need to have some prisons that are for reforming where inmates work at factories and grow and raise own food. Then got the gangs we have to segregate. It has to be a system where mexican mafia is only with mexican mafia, if prisons basically we send people to rot and die in high tech prisons where 1 or 2 gaurds can manage 1000's.

cutthemdown 11-30-2013 10:27 AM

Then you make felon with a gun 50 yrs in prison.

Arkie 11-30-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by peacepipe (Post 3982300)
maybe you should call your local congressman and tell him to support stricter/better BG checks.

We need to enforce the laws we already have. People lied on their background checks 71,000 times in 2009. The FBI only prosecuted 77 of them. The background checks stop them, but then they don't do anything about it. I guess the lying criminal is free to go to the next dealer and try again.

mhgaffney 11-30-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Arkie (Post 3982914)
We need to enforce the laws we already have. People lied on their background checks 71,000 times in 2009. The FBI only prosecuted 77 of them. The background checks stop them, but then they don't do anything about it. I guess the lying criminal is free to go to the next dealer and try again.

yeah, like HW Bush and the rest of his crime family, also Bill Clinton, Obama, many members of Congress, corrupt federal judges, most SEC officials, the entire staff of the federal reserve, the CEOs of all the too bigs and many corporations... etc...

cutthemdown 11-30-2013 02:16 PM

And a partridge in a pear tree.

W*GS 11-30-2013 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mhgaffney (Post 3982998)
yeah, like HW Bush and the rest of his crime family, also Bill Clinton, Obama, many members of Congress, corrupt federal judges, most SEC officials, the entire staff of the federal reserve, the CEOs of all the too bigs and many corporations... etc...

You forgot the Jews.

mhgaffney 12-02-2013 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by W*GS (Post 3983025)
You forgot the Jews.

THE WAY BACK

by Mark H. Gaffney

Another vain November has passed
and we travelers upon a once-great road
find ourselves in a blind alley,
facing another stark December,
no apparent way forward, no obvious way back.

How did we arrive at such a pass?
How did things become so badly stuck?
Did the world change? Or us?

No succor in language.
The nursery rhymes have been plucked
from the mouths of children
and made into marketing jingles.
Spectacle has trumped substance.
The bottom line has driven out morality.
Baseless hope is all the buzz,
looking good the new national idol,
forte of thieves and scoundrels.

They say the mark of the beast
is a chip about the size of a rice grain.
When mothers yearn for it
we will know their breasts have shriveled up
and the heart of the nation lies prostrate upon the earth.

But whoa! Not just yet…
That is their plan, yes, but, fortunately, the emergent order
cares not a whit that despite everything
one man finally came to know himself,
because his old troubling dream, aye, the recurring nightmare,
through grace or fortune somehow dislodged itself from the terrifying deeps,
its vile poison finally spent,
to rise one last time and play in full consciousness,
no more hint of fear, the dark spell broken
and no longer threatening to the young boy
now grown into a man made strong by a thousand deaths,
everything suddenly fresh as early dew,
brightly indulgent as the morning sun,
the simple light of truth endowed
with the subversive power to liberate one man,
and by extension, many others, aye, a people...

As Neruda put it: “Muchos somos.” We are many…

The vampires sucking the nation’s lifeblood
will yet rue the day
they stole mother’s milk from the lips of the unborn.

theAPAOps5 12-02-2013 03:15 PM

Make the world a better place... Punch M.H. Gaffney in the face.

Signed,
America


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