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L.A. BRONCOS FAN 11-17-2013 10:40 PM

Study Finds Republicans Lie Three Times More Than Democrats
 
A new study from the nonpartisan Center For Media Affairs has concluded that since the beginning of President Obama’s second term, Republicans have lied three times more often than Democrats.

The Center For Media Affairs (CFMA) at George Mason University found that PolitiFact rated Republican claims as false three times more often than Democratic claims. Not only do Republicans lie more often, but Democrats are more truthful. By a 2 to 1 margin (22%-11%) PolitiFact rated Democratic statements as completely true. The CFMA also found that, “A majority of Democratic statements (54%) were rated as mostly or entirely true, compared to only 18% of Republican statements.

Conversely, a majority of Republican statements (52%) were rated as mostly or entirely false, compared to only 24% of Democratic statements. Despite controversies over Obama administration statements regarding Benghazi, the IRS and the Associated Press, Republicans have continued to fare worse than Democrats, with 60% of their claims rated as false so far this month (May 1 – May 22), compared to 29% of Democratic statements – a 2 to 1 margin.”

On this surface the fact that Republicans lie more than Democrats may appear obvious, but beyond the numbers this study confirms that lying is a major component of Republican political strategy.

The reason why Republicans can get away with lying so often is because the mainstream media refuses to challenge them. The media has become a willing accomplice in the GOP’s lie to win strategy by treating lies as equal to facts. Republicans know that they can go on television and spread their false talking points with little or no resistance from the media. Republicans have turned the press into empty headed megaphones by refusing to speak to anyone in the media who will challenge their lies. Republicans withhold access to anyone who refuses to treat their lies as fact. That’s how the game works, and it is why the corporate media turns a blind eye to blatant Republican falsehoods.

Republicans are claiming that President Obama has a credibility problem with the American people, when in reality the entire Republican Party lacks credibility. A majority of Americans don’t believe what the Republican Party says anymore. The Republican Party has so damaged their reputation that anyone who runs as the Republican presidential nominee inherits a credibility issue.


The CFMA study blows the media excuse that both sides do it out of the water. Both sides don’t do it. Republicans are lying as part of an intentional strategy to mislead the country. These aren’t a few false statements by individual members of Congress. These lies are party wide talking points. Congressional Republicans have based their investigations of this president on lies, and they believe that if they keep lying long enough, they can convince the American people that they are telling the truth.

Republicans have responded to the improving economy by doubling output of untruth. The trifecta of Obama scandals that the GOP has dreamed up hinge upon false allegations. Lying has become standard operating procedure for the Republican Party. With their policies rejected, and their leadership absent, all the Republican Party has left to offer America is an endless stream of lies.

Doggcow 11-17-2013 10:48 PM

But it's like "I didn't sleep with that guy." vs "I didn't murder and deceive millions of people."'

Von Miller gets in trouble more than Aaron Hernandez.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun 11-17-2013 10:58 PM

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LOL Teahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......................... ...........

L.A. BRONCOS FAN 11-17-2013 11:21 PM

^

Oblivious to the fact that, as the study shows, his credibility is shot to sh*t.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN 11-17-2013 11:22 PM

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cutthemdown 11-18-2013 12:02 AM

Politifact is run by two news organizations and only claims to be non partisan lol. They pick and choose what statements and what politicians get fact checked.

fankadeo 11-18-2013 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown (Post 3972212)
Politifact is run by two news organizations and only claims to be non partisan lol. They pick and choose what statements and what politicians get fact checked.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpos...&postcount=692


wait why are you here. I thought you made a bold statement and moved on with your awesome bearded life?

Rohirrim 11-18-2013 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by fankadeo (Post 3972253)
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpos...&postcount=692


wait why are you here. I thought you made a bold statement and moved on with your awesome bearded life?

Then he realized that nobody had noticed.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun 11-18-2013 08:32 AM

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B-Large 11-18-2013 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by UltimateHoboW/Shotgun (Post 3972461)

I find Fox News' coverage of anything about ACA not only incorrect and deliberatly misleading in most cases, but often hilarious. But the average American automoton rarely questions what their told, so this makes sense.

I guess what they have on their side is 9.9/10 Americans has no idea how our health system works, what is in the policies they current hold from insurers, what a risk pool even is... its really astounding how stupid Americans are with regards to healthcare... I am not even certain how to answers questions sometimes because the person askign the question doesn't understand the question their asking, let alone the response.

We're doom to have the most expensive, least effective system in the world...

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun 11-18-2013 09:00 AM

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cutthemdown 11-18-2013 12:39 PM

Fox news alone in a sea of liberal media. They only exist because liberal media got so out of control.

cutthemdown 11-18-2013 12:42 PM

Obamas big problem is the fact the media has no real moral ground. Sure fox is conservative and the rest liberal but when it comes down to it they will all attack when the time is right. Obama can't run for election again so the media, even his liberal media, will be better off attacking him. Also his influence wains so rich people won't care about him either. Just sort of how it is. What's funny is his big thing, healthcare, being judged on signing people up or not, and the initial cost. Hell we haven't even got to the care part yet lol.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN 11-18-2013 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by B-Large (Post 3972489)
>>I find Fox News' coverage of anything about ACA not only incorrect and deliberatly misleading in most cases, but often hilarious.<<

Just like UltimateSpammer himself. :D

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun 11-25-2013 12:32 PM

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Johnykbr 11-25-2013 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by B-Large (Post 3972489)
We're doom to have the most expensive, least effective system in the world...

Yes, the American system is more pricey, it would be foolish for anyone to debate that. However, where do you get least effective? Unless you are going to a free clinic, our medical service is hands down some of the best in the world. Even those that go to medicaid providers receive better and, more importantly, faster care than many in the countries that offer "free" or single-payer care.

W*GS 11-25-2013 01:56 PM

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Johnykbr 11-25-2013 07:39 PM

Notice I didn't argue price. The system we have in place currently is absurdly expensive when it doesn't need to be. In my opinion, if the AMA didn't have the strangle hold over medicine and licensing that it does, then the insurance companies would be able to inflate prices so much. Then with some decent tort reform to address lawsuits and cross county and state-line exchanges, there would be much more care and for much cheaper prices. Only problem is that the damn lobbyists for all three own congress...

But correct me if I'm wrong, I've always read that the Average Life Expectancy factors in Infant Mortality rates. The US is one of the few countries that "starts the clock" immediately upon birth while most countries wait hours and, in some cases, days to count them. That artificially inflates the IMR which should impact the ALE. My whole point is that while we do pay too much, the care is actually quite good.

BroncoBeavis 11-26-2013 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by W*GS (Post 3981030)

Alternative Translation (and just as credible)

Spicy Food Kills.

barryr 11-26-2013 07:00 PM

It's amazing. There has never been a study by liberals that found them in a worse light than conservatives. It's simply incredible. Meanwhile when Bush was the POTUS, they never lied, never asked for countless hearings on anything that moved, and only dissented as true Americans, unlike those evil conservatives.

cutthemdown 11-27-2013 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnykbr (Post 3981304)
Notice I didn't argue price. The system we have in place currently is absurdly expensive when it doesn't need to be. In my opinion, if the AMA didn't have the strangle hold over medicine and licensing that it does, then the insurance companies would be able to inflate prices so much. Then with some decent tort reform to address lawsuits and cross county and state-line exchanges, there would be much more care and for much cheaper prices. Only problem is that the damn lobbyists for all three own congress...

But correct me if I'm wrong, I've always read that the Average Life Expectancy factors in Infant Mortality rates. The US is one of the few countries that "starts the clock" immediately upon birth while most countries wait hours and, in some cases, days to count them. That artificially inflates the IMR which should impact the ALE. My whole point is that while we do pay too much, the care is actually quite good.

Here we go with the tort reform BS lie. It ishard to sue a doctor ok? It's a lie fomented by insurance companies to try and get limits on judgements. You know so when some doctor cuts off the wrong leg the only have to pay 500 thousand and not 3 million. People seem to think that lawsuits get won where people where not seriously injured. That is bs. You may see some hacks get someone 50 grand here and there but that isn't what tort reform is about. We have juries and judges we are supposed to rely on to decide damages. Limiting them with tort reform is just another **** you to ordinary americans who get injured.

BroncoBeavis 11-27-2013 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown (Post 3982144)
Here we go with the tort reform BS lie. It ishard to sue a doctor ok? It's a lie fomented by insurance companies to try and get limits on judgements. You know so when some doctor cuts off the wrong leg the only have to pay 500 thousand and not 3 million. People seem to think that lawsuits get won where people where not seriously injured. That is bs. You may see some hacks get someone 50 grand here and there but that isn't what tort reform is about. We have juries and judges we are supposed to rely on to decide damages. Limiting them with tort reform is just another **** you to ordinary americans who get injured.

Two words for you my man.

John. Edwards.

Outside of that, just like "The Cost of the Uninsured" argument, it's a sideshow issue. It's a problem that might need addressing someday. But it's not "What's wrong with Healthcare in the US"

Guess Who 11-27-2013 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by UltimateHoboW/Shotgun (Post 3972169)
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LOL Teahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......................... ...........

You realize the people being dropped from the insurance they have is because it doesn't meet the new standards and are basically junk insurance. That is why they are dropped. If they would look into getting different insurance they would be able to find better insurance at a cheaper price.

Guess Who 11-27-2013 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by barryr (Post 3981968)
It's amazing. There has never been a study by liberals that found them in a worse light than conservatives. It's simply incredible. Meanwhile when Bush was the POTUS, they never lied, never asked for countless hearings on anything that moved, and only dissented as true Americans, unlike those evil conservatives.

pretty much

Guess Who 11-27-2013 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by UltimateHoboW/Shotgun (Post 3980908)

46% is pretty good compared to Republicans.


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