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UltimateHoboW/Shotgun 10-06-2013 05:11 PM

Sen. Ted Cruz with Candy Crowley on CNN's State of the Union
 
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Schooled!:curtsey:

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun 10-08-2013 07:48 PM

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nyuk nyuk 10-08-2013 07:58 PM

We need about 1 million clones of Cruz.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun 10-08-2013 10:32 PM

Hell yeah!

Rohirrim 10-08-2013 10:52 PM

The guy who is doing all he can to destroy American democracy is their hero. Why am I not surprised?

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun 10-08-2013 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim (Post 3935393)
The guy who is doing all he can to destroy American democracy is their hero. Why am I not surprised?

Says the guy that's backing Big 'o'. LOL

Rohirrim 10-08-2013 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by UltimateHoboW/Shotgun (Post 3935394)
Says the guy that's backing Big 'o'. LOL

You're a fool.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun 10-08-2013 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim (Post 3935395)
You're a fool.

LOL. Really?!? You're backing the guy that re-wrote a law he passed which isn't allowed under any law. So please :wave:

Rohirrim 10-08-2013 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by UltimateHoboW/Shotgun (Post 3935403)
LOL. Really?!? You're backing the guy that re-wrote a law he passed which isn't allowed under any law. So please :wave:

You couldn't put together a cogent argument if somebody provided you with handwritten instructions. All you do is a Mini Me spew on this forum of whatever is fed to you from the Right Wing hysteria machine. You believe Cruz "schooled" in this video? All he gave is a bunch of political double talk totally without substance. If you believe otherwise, you're a fool. If you think this is about nothing more than your good guys against the other guy's bad guys, you're not only a fool, but an immature fool.

rolandftw 10-08-2013 11:39 PM

It'd be very hard to interview the guy with a straight face, to be honest. Not really much of a surprise as far as what he said, considering his track record with saying truthful things.

It doesn't make any sense for Obama and Reid to support Bills that give funding to different segments of the government one bill at a time. Because eventually, it'll come time to take the same approach with the Affordable Care Act... and it's pretty well known that the House majority would love to get rid of it. He says that the American people don't like the law. Well, the citizens of this country had the opportunity to vote Romney into office. He ran a campaign that was largely centered on the repealing of the ACA. Now maybe there were other reasons why Obama won in such a landslide, but I would think that if the ACA was really as unpopular as Cruz claims, it would have been a much tighter race.

I think most people see through Cruz's act, and realize that this is merely a ploy by some Republicans to attempt to make Democrats look bad for not passing bills on Veteran benefits, National Monuments and the like. In reality, it makes a small section of Republicans look very disingenuous

Overall, it just creates a terrible precedent if one small faction of one party can decide they don't like one law, and that they will attempt to shut down the entire government if they don't get what they want.

nyuk nyuk 10-09-2013 09:49 AM

This is very clear. If you don't like Cruz, you're racist.

nyuk nyuk 10-09-2013 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim (Post 3935393)
The guy who is doing all he can to destroy American democracy is their hero. Why am I not surprised?

There's a simple political rule of thumb I go by. If liberals hate him, he's doing something right.

W*GS 10-09-2013 10:43 AM

If only Ted Cruz were the fearless truth-teller that he claims to be

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Yet if Mr Cruz has shaken up the status quo, it is not in the way that he promised. He does not speak unpopular truths; he panders. He assures nervous conservative voters that there is no need for changes they dislike or fear.
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TonyR 10-09-2013 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim (Post 3935406)
You couldn't put together a cogent argument if somebody provided you with handwritten instructions...

Saw this not long after reading your post:

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The truth is that Republicans can pretty much say whatever they want, no matter what the bizarre logic and no matter what connection it has to what they were saying five minutes ago, and Fox News will totally accept it and blast it for hours or days. The result? Republicans have become incredibly lazy. After all, why bother constructing a coherent argument if you donít need one.
http://www.salon.com/2013/10/05/fox_...this_shutdown/

Requiem 10-09-2013 11:34 AM

There is a difference between being an effective politician and a demagogue. Cruz is the latter.

nyuk nyuk 10-09-2013 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Requiem (Post 3935720)
There is a difference between being an effective politician and a demagogue. Cruz is the latter.

I don't see how he is a demagogue. Is he preparing for a run at higher office? I think that's obvious.

Requiem 10-09-2013 11:54 AM

Because his way of differentiating himself amongst his peers is not by quantifiable differences in major policy discussion, but by ridiculing them if they don't hold up to his own standards of protocol, especially regarding the ACA. That fits the description to a T.

nyuk nyuk 10-09-2013 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Requiem (Post 3935739)
Because his way of differentiating himself amongst his peers is not by quantifiable differences in major policy discussion, but by ridiculing them if they don't hold up to his own standards of protocol, especially regarding the ACA. That fits the description to a T.

I don't think that qualifies a person for such a label, and I think it's also quite common in politics regardless. The guy has standards and he sticks to his guns. I'd like to see more of that. Hopefully he won't do a Paul Ryan and renege on it. Whatever his flaws, it beats a shapeshifting turncoat like McCain by a million times over.

Requiem 10-09-2013 12:19 PM

Well, it isn't as if I am using it pejoratively. It is what it is.

Rohirrim 10-09-2013 01:19 PM

Cruz is the poster child of demagoguery. That anybody on the Right would argue differently just shows how far off the trail of basic reason they have wandered.

Rohirrim 10-09-2013 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk (Post 3935645)
There's a simple political rule of thumb I go by. If liberals hate him, he's doing something right.

Simple rules save you from having to think.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN 10-12-2013 09:52 PM

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L.A. BRONCOS FAN 10-12-2013 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk (Post 3935736)
I don't see how he is a demagogue. Is he preparing for a run at higher office? I think that's obvious.

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UltimateHoboW/Shotgun 10-12-2013 10:01 PM

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L.A. BRONCOS FAN 10-12-2013 10:04 PM

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