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Bronco Rob 08-28-2013 05:05 PM

Peyton’s retirement plans aren’t tied to winning another Super Bowl
 
Asked recently whether quarterback Peyton Manning would retire if the Broncos win the Super Bowl this year, executive V.P. of football operations John Elway said he hopes that’s a bridge they’ll have to cross.

From Manning’s perspective, walking off into the sunset with a Lombardi Trophy under his arm (like Elway did) doesn’t seem to be a priority.

“It’s really not,” Manning told Erik Kuselias of NBCSN’s Pro Football Talk regarding whether the quarterback’s retirement is tied to winning another title. ”I really have no idea how much longer I’ll play. In the 2011 season, I wasn’t sure if I was going to be able to play again. I had a very strange injury. I had different doctors that just couldn’t give me any type of definite timetable or any guarantee, and when you’re dealing with nerves in an injury, it’s just so unpredictable.”

“I want to play, Erik, as long as I’m still a productive player, as long as I can still help a team, and as long as I still enjoy it,” Manning said. “I don’t think it’s about enjoying the games, it’s about do you enjoy practice? Do you enjoy meetings? I’ve heard guys that retire, they just say they dreaded going to meetings, they dreaded going to a walk-through. If it’s just so miserable, then you probably should stop. But I still enjoy the preparation. I still enjoy the practice. I enjoy getting to work with other great football players. And as long as I can still be effective, I’m going to keep playing.”




http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...er-super-bowl/




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oubronco 08-28-2013 05:07 PM

Sounds good to me

extralife 08-28-2013 05:19 PM

yeah, Manning never struck me as a guy looking for an ideal retirement situation. he's going to play until his production drops or his body tells him he can't

ZONA 08-28-2013 05:23 PM

This year and 2 more. That gives Brock plenty of time to get his game in elite shape.

baja 08-28-2013 06:35 PM

Manning is a wise man.

Jekyll15Hyde 08-28-2013 06:42 PM

I think he plays out the entire contract

Mogulseeker 08-28-2013 06:50 PM

At the risk of getting lambasted for quoting ESPN radio again... Gary Miller thinks Manning can play out his contract, AND sign a two year extension while playing at a hight level. That's this year, plus five more, retiring a year older than Brett Favre did.

Really no way to tell at this point though.

08-28-2013 07:25 PM

I can see him playing to 40 to be honest.

broncosteven 08-28-2013 07:33 PM

I could see him playing into his 40's as long as he is healthy. Dude loves what he does.

Lestat 08-28-2013 07:44 PM

I always assumed that if healthy he would play until 42-44 and then retire.
That's about the age in which he just cannot physically hold up unless he's just some kind of uber freak.

broncosteven 08-28-2013 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lestat (Post 3903288)
I always assumed that if healthy he would play until 42-44 and then retire.
That's about the age in which he just cannot physically hold up unless he's just some kind of uber freak.

How long did Vinny Testeverdy(SP?) play? Wasn't he at least 41ish?

08-28-2013 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lestat (Post 3903288)
I always assumed that if healthy he would play until 42-44 and then retire.
That's about the age in which he just cannot physically hold up unless he's just some kind of uber freak.

44 would be insane...

TheChamp24 08-28-2013 08:46 PM

"I think its time to hang em up, and hand over the reigns to Brock. Its been a good run Denver, I enjoyed being your quarterback these past 10 years"

extralife 08-28-2013 08:47 PM

I don't think his arm strength is going to hold up THAT long. no, arm strength isn't the most important thing in the world for Manning, and yes, it tends to hold up pretty well with age, but you still need to hit a certain threshold to be a top notch QB, and Manning is in danger of dropping below that threshold at some point.

SouthStndJunkie 08-28-2013 09:00 PM

I've always said that Peyton Manning will play as long as he can play at a decent level.

He eats, breathes, and ****s football.

They'll have to take him off the field kicking and screaming.

I'd love to see him stay healthy and play well for another 4 seasons.

Peyton will never admit, but he's a historian of the game and would love to own all the major passing records (in addition to winning a few more Super Bowls).

If Peyton Manning stays healthy for 4 more seasons, he could own almost all of the major career passing records:

Passing Completions:

Leader: Brett Favre - 6,300

Peyton Manning - 5,082 (Peyton has averaged 363 completions per season....lets conservatively say 320 completions a season for the next 4 seasons....that would give him 6,362 career completions).

Passing Attempts:

Leader: Brett Favre - 10,169

Peyton Manning - 7,793 (Peyton Manning has averaged 557 attempts per season....lets conservatively give him 530 attempts a season for the next 4 seasons....that would give him 9,913 career attempts, still 256 attempts short of Brett Favre's record....damn that dude threw a lot of passes).

Passing Yards:

Leader: Brett Favre - 71,838 passing yards

Peyton Manning - 59,487 passing yards (Peyton Manning has averaged 4,249 yards passing per season....lets conservatively give him 4,000 yards a season for the next 4 seasons. That would give him 71,487 passing yards after 3 season and 75,487 passing yards per season after 4 seasons. This is a record Peyton Manning could very easily take over with another 3 solid seasons).

Passing Touchdowns:

Leader: Brett Favre - 508 Passing TDs

Peyton Manning - 436 Passing TDs (Peyton Manning has averaged a little over 31 passing TDs per season....lets conservatively give him 25 TD passes per season for the next 4 seasons. That would give him 511 TD passes after 3 seasons and 536 TD passes after 4 seasons. This is another record Peyton Manning could very easily take over with another 3 solid seasons).

broncosteven 08-28-2013 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by extralife (Post 3903319)
I don't think his arm strength is going to hold up THAT long. no, arm strength isn't the most important thing in the world for Manning, and yes, it tends to hold up pretty well with age, but you still need to hit a certain threshold to be a top notch QB, and Manning is in danger of dropping below that threshold at some point.

I think it is his legs, can he move enough to save himself, can his body bounce back from injury (talking the small hits that add up over time), can stay conditioned enough to play a full season and Playoffs?

His arm will be fine as long as his head doesn't fall off.

08-28-2013 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bronco Rob (Post 3903216)
Asked recently whether quarterback Peyton Manning would retire if the Broncos win the Super Bowl this year, executive V.P. of football operations John Elway said he hopes that’s a bridge they’ll have to cross.

From Manning’s perspective, walking off into the sunset with a Lombardi Trophy under his arm (like Elway did) doesn’t seem to be a priority.

“It’s really not,” Manning told Erik Kuselias of NBCSN’s Pro Football Talk regarding whether the quarterback’s retirement is tied to winning another title. ”I really have no idea how much longer I’ll play. In the 2011 season, I wasn’t sure if I was going to be able to play again. I had a very strange injury. I had different doctors that just couldn’t give me any type of definite timetable or any guarantee, and when you’re dealing with nerves in an injury, it’s just so unpredictable.”

“I want to play, Erik, as long as I’m still a productive player, as long as I can still help a team, and as long as I still enjoy it,” Manning said. “I don’t think it’s about enjoying the games, it’s about do you enjoy practice? Do you enjoy meetings? I’ve heard guys that retire, they just say they dreaded going to meetings, they dreaded going to a walk-through. If it’s just so miserable, then you probably should stop. But I still enjoy the preparation. I still enjoy the practice. I enjoy getting to work with other great football players. And as long as I can still be effective, I’m going to keep playing.”




http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...er-super-bowl/




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Manning has his sites set on all of Favre's records, 3-4 more full seasons. I can see him playing until he is 41 as long as the team is good. When you get older you lose arm strength and foot speed and he doesn't rely on those anyway.

Taco John 08-28-2013 10:36 PM

I personally think Peyton Manning wants to coach. I think he'd be great at it.

baja 08-28-2013 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John (Post 3903365)
I personally think Peyton Manning wants to coach. I think he'd be great at it.

How long before Peyton Manning and John Elway come to loggerheads? Just wondering.

Blueflame 08-28-2013 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agamemnon (Post 3903300)
44 would be insane...

For a time it almost seemed like "44-year-old" was the official title (like Mr. or Dr.) for Steve DeBerg.

extralife 08-28-2013 11:54 PM

and even if Manning gets all of Favre's records he probably knows that Brees is likely to end up taking over just a few years later

SouthStndJunkie 08-29-2013 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by extralife (Post 3903379)
and even if Manning gets all of Favre's records he probably knows that Brees is likely to end up taking over just a few years later

I don't know....Drew Brees is 34 years old and Peyton Manning is 37 years old.

Manning is currently 1,047 completions ahead of Brees, 1,644 attempts ahead of Brees, 13,568 passing yards ahead of Brees, and 112 TD passes ahead of Brees.

If Peyton Manning played 4 more productive seasons, Drew Brees wouldn't make up a lot of ground and then would be 38 years old and have a ways to go to catch Peyton Manning.

extralife 08-29-2013 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthStndJunkie (Post 3903383)
If Peyton Manning played 4 more productive seasons, Drew Brees wouldn't make up a lot of ground and then would be 38 years old and have a ways to go to catch Peyton Manning.

any kind of prediction that sees Manning playing four more seasons probably shouldn't count Brees out at 38. the TD record might be hard for him, but the others are well within reach

Kaylore 08-29-2013 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jekyll15Hyde (Post 3903257)
I think he plays out the entire contract

Outside of a health issue, this would not shock me at all. And that's regardless of what happens in the post-season.

maven 08-29-2013 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthStndJunkie (Post 3903331)
I've always said that Peyton Manning will play as long as he can play at a decent level.

He eats, breathes, and ****s football.

They'll have to take him off the field kicking and screaming.

I'd love to see him stay healthy and play well for another 4 seasons.

Peyton will never admit, but he's a historian of the game and would love to own all the major passing records (in addition to winning a few more Super Bowls).

If Peyton Manning stays healthy for 4 more seasons, he could own almost all of the major career passing records:

Passing Completions:

Leader: Brett Favre - 6,300

Peyton Manning - 5,082 (Peyton has averaged 363 completions per season....lets conservatively say 320 completions a season for the next 4 seasons....that would give him 6,362 career completions).

Passing Attempts:

Leader: Brett Favre - 10,169

Peyton Manning - 7,793 (Peyton Manning has averaged 557 attempts per season....lets conservatively give him 530 attempts a season for the next 4 seasons....that would give him 9,913 career attempts, still 256 attempts short of Brett Favre's record....damn that dude threw a lot of passes).

Passing Yards:

Leader: Brett Favre - 71,838 passing yards

Peyton Manning - 59,487 passing yards (Peyton Manning has averaged 4,249 yards passing per season....lets conservatively give him 4,000 yards a season for the next 4 seasons. That would give him 71,487 passing yards after 3 season and 75,487 passing yards per season after 4 seasons. This is a record Peyton Manning could very easily take over with another 3 solid seasons).

Passing Touchdowns:

Leader: Brett Favre - 508 Passing TDs

Peyton Manning - 436 Passing TDs (Peyton Manning has averaged a little over 31 passing TDs per season....lets conservatively give him 25 TD passes per season for the next 4 seasons. That would give him 511 TD passes after 3 seasons and 536 TD passes after 4 seasons. This is another record Peyton Manning could very easily take over with another 3 solid seasons).

Insane numbers by Favre. A great QB.

After seeing Manning get knocked down the other preseason game, first thought was Favre. Slow to get up and everything. Wonder if we will see a Saints game again in the playoffs where they just knocked Favre down all over the place without any flags. Age is catching up with Manning. I doubt Manning will eclipse Favre's #'s. I just don't see him lasting that long.


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