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ward63 06-26-2013 05:21 PM

Fallout of Hernandez-football talk side
 
I feel that we all know that Hernandez will be gone for the entire season no matter what happens with this court case. I just wanted to discuss where New England will have to turn. I feel that Denver, among other teams can take "advantage" (and I quote that because of the seriousness of the case and the loss of a life) of the situation that New England will be placed in now. Basically, their weapons are extremely thin and I don't see them bringing back B. Lloyd and I wouldn't see TO or Chad Johnson being picked up by them. And the tight ends are very thin outside of Winslow.

For Denver, I can see out WR and TE depth getting a pick(s) or player(s) for them. Obviously we have locks at WR with Demaryius, Decker, and Welker. I wouldn't imagine King will go anywhere. Outside of that, I see one spot being open for the five. No, I'm not counting Holliday as a WR. Anyways, that leaves the door for a potential trade.

As for TE, I don't see any locks, but I believe we will not keep three but we have four guys that can play and two were McDaniels picks.

Again, I know that Hernandez is in a serious situation but I wanted to discuss football about it, like Burger Bill did here:

Could Hernandez's release affect AFC West?

By Bill Williamson | Jun 26, 2013 2:15 PM
The Aaron Hernandez arrest and his fast release from the New England Patriots is clearly a dominant story that shakes beyond the AFC East.

Yes, there is reason to write about it on this blog. While I think it is currently inappropriate to wonder if his future could include the AFC West, his release from the Patriots could affect this division.

The Patriots may be in need of help at tight end with Hernandez gone and Rob Gronkowski a major question mark because of injuries. The free-agent market is very weak at tight end, thus the Patriots may be forced to seek a trade.

I think both Denver and Kansas City should call the Patriots and see if they can take advantage of the team’s hole at the position. I think Denver could potentially dangle Joel Dreessen and Kansas City could potentially offer Tony Moeaki. Both players are better than any option the Patriots currently have.

Dreessen had 41 catches last season. I think Denver would be more open to move Dreessen than Jacob Tamme, because Tamme is a bigger part of the offense and has long-time chemistry with Peyton Manning. Julius Thomas was getting rave reviews for his work in the offseason, so perhaps he is ready to take the next step and become a contributor. That could make Dreessen expendable.

I am a big believer in Moeaki, who has been hampered by injuries. I’m not sure the new Kansas City regime is courting on Moeaki. Anthony Fasano was signed in the offseason and Travis Kelce was drafted in third round. I wouldn’t be shocked if the Chiefs could get something in return for Moeaki and they’d feel comfortable rolling forward with Fasano and Kelce.

One final thought on Hernandez: He is subject to a waiver claim on Thursday. I would be shocked, beyond shocked really, if any team puts a claim on him. I just couldn’t fathom it.

06-26-2013 05:30 PM

I'd be all for trading away tamme or dressen for picks, but I doubt Belichick would do something like that. Moeaki wouldn't fetch a high 7th so that probably won't happen either.

And the Patriots already have this guy, so they're all set.
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DBroncos4life 06-26-2013 05:34 PM

Winslow is a Jet now.

Old Dude 06-26-2013 05:39 PM

I'd trade them Orange Julius for a 2d.

SonOfLe-loLang 06-26-2013 05:43 PM

I don't want to trade the Patriots our talent when we're in win now mode.

TheReverend 06-26-2013 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang (Post 3869509)
I don't want to trade the Patriots our talent when we're in win now mode.

^ that

Archer81 06-26-2013 05:47 PM

Rather keep Dreesen and Tamme.


:Broncos:

Jetmeck 06-26-2013 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang (Post 3869509)
I don't want to trade the Patriots our talent when we're in win now mode.

Exactly, let the ****ing rat Bellicheck rot.

06-26-2013 06:01 PM

Don't be surprised to see Tebow play well at TE. Dirty Sanchez can't hit the broad side of a barn, so nothing can be taken from any of his time with the jets.

bronco militia 06-26-2013 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jerseyboiler120 (Post 3869528)
Don't be surprised to see Tebow play well at TE. .

LOL

ColoradoDarin 06-26-2013 06:12 PM

If they want to get better by a trade, let's not make it at our expense.

BroncoMan4ever 06-26-2013 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang (Post 3869509)
I don't want to trade the Patriots our talent when we're in win now mode.

why help them stay in contention? right now their issues are assisting us in having one less elite team in our way to the Super Bowl. i say stand pat with what we have, unless the offer for Dreessen or Tamme was exorbitant.

BroncoMan4ever 06-26-2013 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jerseyboiler120 (Post 3869528)
Don't be surprised to see Tebow play well at TE. Dirty Sanchez can't hit the broad side of a barn, so nothing can be taken from any of his time with the jets.

i like Tim, but i pray that doesn't happen, because I really don't want more Belichick knob worship on ESPN and NFL Network.

06-26-2013 06:18 PM

I still don't knock them off the elite list until we beat them handily, and they miss the playoffs. As much as I hate belly-boy, he's proven he can take players no one else values and plug them in somewhere and get big impacts from them (of course with a little help from cheating thru his minions videotaping prowess).

06-26-2013 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoMan4ever (Post 3869543)
i like Tim, but i pray that doesn't happen, because I really don't want more Belichick knob worship on ESPN and NFL Network.

I pray the same. I hate the patriot scumbags and do not want to see Tebow kicking butt for the next 10 years in that ugly patriot uniform.

baja 06-26-2013 06:28 PM

Only trade a player they were going to cut anyway.

06-26-2013 06:35 PM

Who would we want from them?

BroncoMan4ever 06-26-2013 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jerseyboiler120 (Post 3869565)
Who would we want from them?

Ninkovitch? about the only player I could see us having any interest in besides Wilfork who will never get traded.

DBroncos4life 06-26-2013 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jerseyboiler120 (Post 3869565)
Who would we want from them?

Mallett, then ship him to the Browns.

06-26-2013 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life (Post 3869604)
Mallett, then ship him to the Browns.

Then who for mallet from the browns?

06-26-2013 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoMan4ever (Post 3869574)
Ninkovitch? about the only player I could see us having any interest in besides Wilfork who will never get traded.

Not a bad choice. Solid smart player.

DBroncos4life 06-26-2013 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jerseyboiler120 (Post 3869607)
Then who for mallet from the browns?

Draft picks.

06-26-2013 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life (Post 3869614)
Draft picks.

Not sure what they would give us for him. Not exactly a prized candidate.

06-26-2013 07:25 PM

Everyone has a price.

DBroncos4life 06-26-2013 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jerseyboiler120 (Post 3869617)
Not sure what they would give us for him. Not exactly a prized candidate.

NE wanted a 2nd, Browns offered a 3rd for him.


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