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peacepipe 06-15-2013 10:41 AM

gotta love elizabeth warren!
 
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/0...federal-courts
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Here in Washington, power is not balanced,” Warren said on the opening day of the 2013 ACS Convention. “Instead, power is becoming more concentrated on one side. There are powerful, deep-pocketed corporate interests lined up to fight to protect their privilege and to resist any change that would limit corporate excesses.” [...]

“These big corporate interests are savvy,” Warren continued. “They fight every day on Capitol Hill and in the agencies, devoting enormous resources to the task of bending legislation to benefit themselves. But they also devote enormous resources toward influencing the courts.

“Why? Because they know that influencing those who interpret the law is another extremely effective way to achieve their goals. In our democracy, when we write our laws, reasoned debate, public opinion, and political accountability are all factors that can thwart the efforts of powerful interests.” [...]

“Follow this pro-business trend to its logical conclusion, and sooner or later you'll end up with a Supreme Court that functions as a wholly owned subsidiary of the Chamber of Commerce,” Warren said.

Now,if we can just get the rest of congress & the president to realize this.

DenverBrit 06-15-2013 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by peacepipe (Post 3862773)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/0...federal-courts


Now,if we can just get the rest of congress & the president to realize this.

Until we have public funded elections and exclude the corporations and others from pouring in millions, our politicians remain bought and paid for.

Our politics have become a 'third world' model of open bribes and corruption with a foreign policy dictated by the military industrial complex.

We urgently need campaign finance reform just to get the ball rolling.

houghtam 06-15-2013 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverBrit (Post 3862811)
Until we have public funded elections and exclude the corporations and others from pouring in millions, our politicians remain bought and paid for.

Our politics have become a 'third world' model of open bribes and corruption with a foreign policy dictated by the military industrial complex.

We urgently need campaign finance reform just to get the ball rolling.

Corporations are people, my friend.

Rohirrim 06-15-2013 02:50 PM

“Follow this pro-business trend to its logical conclusion, and sooner or later you'll end up with a Supreme Court that functions as a wholly owned subsidiary of the Chamber of Commerce,” Warren said.

And that is a hundred times more dangerous to this republic than Al Queda could ever hope to be.

We've got to run Elizabeth for president.

cutthemdown 06-16-2013 04:58 AM

How does she feel about the Redskin name? I figure since she is part American indian she would have a thought on it. Oh thats right she lied about that!

06-16-2013 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown (Post 3863068)
How does she feel about the Redskin name? I figure since she is part American indian she would have a thought on it. Oh thats right she lied about that!

Shame on you for Denigrating our Nation's first duly elected Fake Native American Senator. LOL

Anyway, its becoming clear why people like her want to do away with having to listen to business interests. They want as little interference for Leviathan as possible.

txtebow 06-16-2013 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown (Post 3863068)
How does she feel about the Redskin name? I figure since she is part American indian she would have a thought on it. Oh thats right she lied about that!

touche'!

txtebow 06-16-2013 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverBrit (Post 3862811)
Until we have public funded elections and exclude the corporations and others from pouring in millions, our politicians remain bought and paid for.

Our politics have become a 'third world' model of open bribes and corruption with a foreign policy dictated by the military industrial complex.

We urgently need campaign finance reform just to get the ball rolling.

Government funded elections...where by the powers that be get to select our candidates for us to a higher degree than they already do? NO THANKS.

peacepipe 06-16-2013 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by txtebow (Post 3863101)
Taxpayer funded elections...where by the powers that be get to select our candidates for us to a higher degree than they already do? NO THANKS.

So politicians being accountable to all citizens is something you have a problem with?
You do realize the powers that be are you and I, it's a thing called elections,you don't like who represents you/runs government, vote them out.

peacepipe 06-16-2013 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown (Post 3863068)
How does she feel about the Redskin name? I figure since she is part American indian she would have a thought on it. Oh thats right she lied about that!

And what does that have to do with the price of tea in China.

houghtam 06-16-2013 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by peacepipe (Post 3863105)
So politicians being accountable to all citizens is something you have a problem with?
You do realize the powers that be are you and I, it's a thing called elections,you don't like who represents you/runs government, vote them out.

How cute.

He thinks the "powers that be" that "decide elections" are the government.

06-16-2013 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by houghtam (Post 3863110)
How cute.

He thinks the "powers that be" that "decide elections" are the government.

What's cuter is people thinking that all it takes for a government to be accountable is an election between government candidate A and government candidate B every now and again.

DenverBrit 06-16-2013 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by txtebow (Post 3863101)
Government funded elections...where by the powers that be get to select our candidates for us to a higher degree than they already do? NO THANKS.

LOL

Thank for the morning laugh.

DenverBrit 06-16-2013 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBeavis (Post 3863113)
What's cuter is people thinking that all it takes for a government to be accountable is an election between government candidate A and government candidate B every now and again.

There is a very simple point here. The system is currently corrupted to the point that we no longer live in a true Democracy/Democratic Republic.

The billions poured into elections, and the endless campaigning ensure that we get policy made to enrich the lobbyists and their masters.

It's interesting that 'public funding' has been morphed into 'government controlled elections,' why is that??

If you're happy having the corporations and various interest groups controlling government, then say so. I'm not, and neither is anyone else I know.

06-16-2013 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverBrit (Post 3863116)
There is a very simple point here. The system is currently corrupted to the point that we no longer live in a true Democracy/Democratic Republic.

The billions poured into elections, and the endless campaigning ensure that we get policy made to enrich the lobbyists and their masters.

It's interesting that 'public funding' has been morphed into 'government controlled elections,' why is that??

If you're happy having the corporations and various interest groups controlling government, then say so. I'm not, and neither is anyone else I know.

Sorry man but after reading this
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...opaganda-prism

Anyone who believes that the problem with our government is one primarily of corporate influence is kidding themselves.

peacepipe 06-16-2013 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBeavis (Post 3863131)
Sorry man but after reading this
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...opaganda-prism

Anyone who believes that the problem with our government is one primarily of corporate influence is kidding themselves.

LOL nice try. Can't make an argument on the influence of corporations on our government so you attempt to distract from it.

06-16-2013 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by peacepipe (Post 3863133)
LOL nice try. Can't make an argument on the influence of corporations on our government so you attempt to distract from it.

Wow. So quick you couldn't even have read what I posted. LOL

Not surprising that you don't listen... only parrot. Greenwald talks about your kind in there.

peacepipe 06-16-2013 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBeavis (Post 3863134)
Wow. So quick you couldn't even have read what I posted. LOL

Not surprising that you don't listen... only parrot. Greenwald talks about your kind in there.

There's already a thread on prism/NSA,go there and discuss it.

06-16-2013 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by peacepipe (Post 3863135)
There's already a thread on prism/NSA,go there and discuss it.

Yeah because proving government corrupt completely aside from corporate influence is totally irrelevant.

The main point is that its Warren whos really guilty of distraction.

peacepipe 06-16-2013 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBeavis (Post 3863141)
Yeah because proving government corrupt completely aside from corporate influence is totally irrelevant.

The main point is that its Warren whos really guilty of distraction.

Warren is 100% correct in pointing out the corruption that arises from corporate influence in our government. Point out where she's wrong.

We can walk & chew gum at the same time.

DenverBrit 06-16-2013 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBeavis (Post 3863131)
Sorry man but after reading this
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...opaganda-prism

Anyone who believes that the problem with our government is one primarily of corporate influence is kidding themselves.

This has been going on for years.........decades even, and it doesn't diminish one bit, the corruption of our elected officials by lobbyist money.

Money that is essential to both parties ability to get elected. Do you honestly think that the ongoing snooping and climate of fear would continue if the military industrial complex didn't own our politicians?

cutthemdown 06-16-2013 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by peacepipe (Post 3863106)
And what does that have to do with the price of tea in China.

We were discussing which one of the candidates is a liar and more fit for service right?

cutthemdown 06-16-2013 01:11 PM

So what did gomez lie about Peace? We have ine big one proven for Warren. She claimed to be an Indian, and she wasn't. She lied about who she was and where she came from. meanwhile Gomez was defending our country as a Navy Seal.

cutthemdown 06-16-2013 01:12 PM

But biden and Obama both huge liars also so maybe that is what dems are looking for. Good liars.

06-16-2013 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverBrit (Post 3863149)
This has been going on for years.........decades even, and it doesn't diminish one bit, the corruption of our elected officials by lobbyist money.

Money that is essential to both parties ability to get elected. Do you honestly think that the ongoing snooping and climate of fear would continue if the military industrial complex didn't own our politicians?

So in essence what you're saying is its never the pimps fault. They was just corrupted by their clients' money.


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