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baja 06-07-2013 02:58 PM

Would you rather have Luck or Brock Osweiler & Von Miller?
 
With a few years of Peyton Manning tossed in.


I'll take Miller and Brock & Peyton every time.

Tombstone RJ 06-07-2013 03:13 PM

I'll take "Worthless Threads by Baja" for $1000.00 Alex... j/k.

baja 06-07-2013 03:15 PM

Having the second pick made us a better team both short term (Peyton Manning) and long term (Brock & Von ) than if we had had the 1st over all pick (Luck)

ColoradoDarin 06-07-2013 03:15 PM

Same as the Colts, I'd take Luck.

baja 06-07-2013 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 3858548)
I'll take "Worthless Threads by Baja" for $1000.00 Alex... j/k.

It's a good question. Do you have an opinion or are you waiting for more responses before you decide how you are supposed to think about this?

KCStud 06-07-2013 03:24 PM

Easily Luck. All about the QB and Manning is almost done.

Tombstone RJ 06-07-2013 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baja (Post 3858551)
It's a good question. Do you have an opinion or are you waiting for more responses before you decide how you are supposed to think about this?

what part of "j/k" slipped past you? I'll take Luck and Von Miller... :P

baja 06-07-2013 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 3858555)
what part of "j/k" slipped past you? I'll take Luck and Von Miller... :P

I'm getting a little sensitive in my old age. ;D

06-07-2013 03:29 PM

I'd take luck over any QB in the league going forward without a doubt, but at the price of von and the future qb brock it would be a very tough decision.

06-07-2013 03:30 PM

WHat abotu RGIII?

Tombstone RJ 06-07-2013 03:31 PM

I'll have to go with Luck as of right now. We've seen what he can do in his rookie season. As much as I want to believe in Brock, we simply don't know how he'll pan out.

baja 06-07-2013 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim (Post 3858561)
I'd take luck over any QB in the league going forward without a doubt, but at the price of von and the future qb brock it would be a very tough decision.


Thank you for getting the thread.

Did I not explain it very well do you think?

baja 06-07-2013 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 3858563)
I'll have to go with Luck as of right now. We've seen what he can do in his rookie season. As much as I want to believe in Brock, we simply don't know how he'll pan out.

Don't forget we also likely have PEYTON for 3 maybe 4 seasons with a good shot at a championship every one of those years.

CEH 06-07-2013 03:35 PM

Luck for me. A once a generation type player at the most important position

If things play out you are talking 15-16 years of top QB play. We know what he does on the field but off the field it frees up your draft board and creates a definitive advantage come draft time to really improve your team.

broncs2bowl 06-07-2013 03:36 PM

If we win a super bowl with Manning, definitely Von-Brock-Manning(for few years)

-Becuz even the Colts only won 1 super bowl with Peyton Manning. The Dolphins 0 with Marino.

However, QBs like Eli Manning won 2 superbowls and Flacco 1 last year built around Defensive Leaders simliar to Von
I could see Osweiler having a similar chance if he pans out properly.

Tombstone RJ 06-07-2013 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baja (Post 3858566)
Don't forget we also likely have PEYTON for 3 maybe 4 seasons with a good shot at a championship every one of those years.

True, but you'd have Luck and his skimpy salary for the next 3 years. Combine that with the rest of this Broncos team and I see SB viability.

FireFly 06-07-2013 03:37 PM

I'd go with Luck. Brock is completely unknown and so no more valuable than the 2nd round pass rusher we'd have picked in his place and QB>any other position.

In this equation we likely would have kept Doom as well.

FireFly 06-07-2013 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baja (Post 3858566)
Don't forget we also likely have PEYTON for 3 maybe 4 seasons with a good shot at a championship every one of those years.

I disagree to an extent. We might have Manning for that long but I'm not sold that he'll be an elite (top 5) passer all the way into that 4th year.

Luck will be leading the Colts for 10-15 unless something goes horribly wrong.

bowtown 06-07-2013 03:41 PM

Oz is going to make Luck look like Maddox. I'll take Von over all of them.

baja 06-07-2013 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FireFly (Post 3858573)
I disagree to an extent. We might have Manning for that long but I'm not sold that he'll be an elite (top 5) passer all the way into that 4th year.

Luck will be leading the Colts for 10-15 unless something goes horribly wrong.


Luck going 10 to 15 years without injury or other issues is as much as an unknown as Peyton having 3 or 4 years of top notch play maybe even more of a stretch.

baja 06-07-2013 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 3858569)
True, but you'd have Luck and his skimpy salary for the next 3 years. Combine that with the rest of this Broncos team and I see SB viability.

The break on Luck's cap hit is a good point and is a real factor.

SimonFletcher73 06-07-2013 04:34 PM

I'd go with Von/Osweiler/Manning over Luck.

While playing hypotheticals I would have gone Von/Luck over Manning/Wolfe/Osweiler if we would have tanked it with Orton in 2011.

RhymesayersDU 06-07-2013 04:41 PM

Luck.

SoCalBronco 06-07-2013 04:54 PM

Very close call but Luck.

Arkie 06-07-2013 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimonFletcher73 (Post 3858610)
I'd go with Von/Osweiler/Manning over Luck.

While playing hypotheticals I would have gone Von/Luck over Manning/Wolfe/Osweiler if we would have tanked it with Orton in 2011.

In that case we would have Von, Luck and Wolfe because we would also have a top 2nd round pick about where we took Wolfe anyway.


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