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TheReverend 06-01-2013 09:21 AM

OT: Psychologists Examine Conspiracy Theorists
 
Whether it's anti-gravity and the man keeping Tebow down from MacGruder, or baja's 2012, reptilian control, America is evil and human photosynthesis, or gaffney's... well... everything, we have no shortage of conspiracy theorists on the Mane.

This recent article provides some interesting insight into the minds of these kinds of people.

"Why Rational People Buy Into Conspiracy Theories" Check out the amazing article at:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/ma...&smid=fb-share

My favorite segments:

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Conspiracy theories also seem to be more compelling to those with low self-worth, especially with regard to their sense of agency in the world at large. Conspiracy theories appear to be a way of reacting to uncertainty and powerlessness.
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“If you know the truth and others don’t, that’s one way you can reassert feelings of having agency,” Swami says. It can be comforting to do your own research even if that research is flawed. It feels good to be the wise old goat in a flock of sheep.
RE confirmation bias:

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In that way, Swami says, the Internet and other media have helped perpetuate paranoia. Not only does more exposure to these alternative narratives help engender belief in conspiracies, he says, but the Internet’s tendency toward tribalism helps reinforce misguided beliefs.

Kaylore 06-01-2013 09:30 AM

My sister was left by her abusive husband. She has two kids and is staying in our Aunt's house. She's slowly blamed every single person in her family for her problems and now hates all of us (I apparently disrespected her children on facebook by including a photo of them with my daughter and now she doesn't want to see me.) It's sad but it just seems some people begin to become angrier and bitter and begin to see and blame everyone for all their problems.

TheReverend 06-01-2013 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore (Post 3855242)
My sister was left by her abusive husband. She has two kids and is staying in our Aunt's house. She's slowly blamed every single person in her family for her problems and now hates all of us (I apparently disrespected her children on facebook by including a photo of them with my daughter and now she doesn't want to see me.) It's sad but it just seems some people begin to become angrier and bitter and begin to see and blame everyone for all their problems.

I think lack of personal responsibility is the single worst epidemic our species is facing in the current, modern world.

It extends a lot further than our own American litigious society and infects a lot of not only our own interactions, but also our individual actions and choices.

To be fair to your sister, I saw when you posted those pictures when you posted them and you kinda did dress them up in clothes that said "My mom sucks!".

Seriously though, sorry about your sister. Maybe the mothership will come take her to happiness soon?

Rohirrim 06-01-2013 10:05 AM

I read a great quote from Arthur C. Clarke the other day. "Two possibilities exist: Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying." I think a lot of what human beings get tangled up in comes from the process of dealing with that terror.

TonyR 06-01-2013 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore (Post 3855242)
It's sad but it just seems some people begin to become angrier and bitter and begin to see and blame everyone for all their problems.

Sounds just like my ex except that she mostly blames me for everything as opposed to everyone else lol.

Archer81 06-01-2013 10:35 AM

MISINFORMATION!


:Broncos:

pricejj 06-01-2013 10:43 AM

It's natural to be wary of what other people say and do, which could lead you down the wrong path.

Archer81 06-01-2013 10:50 AM

In reading the article 3 times...it reminds me why I hate the NY Times. Use of some of our members favorite buzzwords certainly deserves a chuckle though.


:Broncos:

TonyR 06-01-2013 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sirhcyennek81 (Post 3855267)
...it reminds me why I hate the NY Times.

Yup, can't be trustin' them there highfalutin city folk. Nosiree.

Archer81 06-01-2013 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyR (Post 3855271)
Yup, can't be trustin' them there highfalutin city folk. Nosiree.


Well obviously.



:Broncos:

TheReverend 06-01-2013 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sirhcyennek81 (Post 3855267)
In reading the article 3 times...it reminds me why I hate the NY Times. Use of some of our members favorite buzzwords certainly deserves a chuckle though.


:Broncos:

...what in that article was representative of why you hate the NY Times?

pricejj 06-01-2013 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sirhcyennek81 (Post 3855267)
In reading the article 3 times...it reminds me why I hate the NY Times. Use of some of our members favorite buzzwords certainly deserves a chuckle though.


:Broncos:

NYTimes and Denver Post, two of the worst liberal rags on the planet. Their spin is insufferable and nearly always opposite of the truth.

TheReverend 06-01-2013 11:21 AM

Please God, don't let this turn into a political b**** fest...

Archer81 06-01-2013 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend (Post 3855273)
...what in that article was representative of why you hate the NY Times?


The ending.

"Either way, the current scientific thinking suggests these beliefs are nothing more than an extreme form of cynicism, a turning away from politics and traditional media which only perpetuates the problem."

You can't trust those new news sources out there. They might be conspiracy theorists! But you can trust us, the traditional media, and our right good friends in politics.

Timing of the article is also funny. A White House buried under 3 conspiracies, one of which involves traditional media and we get an article about conspiracy theories from the NYT and how being extremely cynical of either the media or government means you may be prone to believing conspiracy theories, and therefore potentially crazy.

Plus the constant use of science/scientific just for the sake of it got on my nerves. We already know it is an article based on scientific research. Claiming it in every other sentence is filler. She have a minimum word count?

:Broncos:

Archer81 06-01-2013 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by pricejj (Post 3855280)
NYTimes and Denver Post, two of the worst liberal rags on the planet. Their spin is insufferable and nearly always opposite of the truth.


I hate filler. And being told that being cynical of things that deserve suspicion means I might be a member of the tin foil hat brigade. It has nothing to do with right or left.


:Broncos:

Tombstone RJ 06-01-2013 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend (Post 3855245)
I think lack of personal responsibility is the single worst epidemic our species is facing in the current, modern world.

It extends a lot further than our own American litigious society and infects a lot of not only our own interactions, but also our individual actions and choices.


To be fair to your sister, I saw when you posted those pictures when you posted them and you kinda did dress them up in clothes that said "My mom sucks!".

Seriously though, sorry about your sister. Maybe the mothership will come take her to happiness soon?

I couldn't agree more. It's an epidemic in America to blame everyone else for your problems. It started as a self esteem movement (give all the kids a trophy, not just the winner) and now it's matastisized into an entire generation of non-motivated, spoiled and self entitled young folks who think the rules don't apply to them. Combine this with the post modern movement of subjective truth and it's a snowball made in hell.

Tombstone RJ 06-01-2013 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by sirhcyennek81 (Post 3855292)
The ending.

"Either way, the current scientific thinking suggests these beliefs are nothing more than an extreme form of cynicism, a turning away from politics and traditional media which only perpetuates the problem."

You can't trust those new news sources out there. They might be conspiracy theorists! But you can trust us, the traditional media, and our right good friends in politics.

Timing of the article is also funny. A White House buried under 3 conspiracies, one of which involves traditional media and we get an article about conspiracy theories from the NYT and how being extremely cynical of either the media or government means you may be prone to believing conspiracy theories, and therefore potentially crazy.

Plus the constant use of science/scientific just for the sake of it got on my nerves. We already know it is an article based on scientific research. Claiming it in every other sentence is filler. She have a minimum word count?

:Broncos:

Baaaa-Zing! and a good rep to you sir.

Los Broncos 06-01-2013 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore (Post 3855242)
My sister was left by her abusive husband. She has two kids and is staying in our Aunt's house. She's slowly blamed every single person in her family for her problems and now hates all of us (I apparently disrespected her children on facebook by including a photo of them with my daughter and now she doesn't want to see me.) It's sad but it just seems some people begin to become angrier and bitter and begin to see and blame everyone for all their problems.

What ever happend to accountability? It sucks that she was abused, but you need to look within sometimes.

pricejj 06-01-2013 11:53 AM

I don't believe they did it because of a youtube video. Does that make me a conspiracy theorist?

06-01-2013 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend (Post 3855282)
Please God, don't let this turn into a political b**** fest...

It is political. We have a President who should be impeached for all the blatant breaches of The Constitution he's committed since the day he took office. Now there are 3 major issues that if he was a Republican the "media" would be covering non-stop 24-7 until the liberals did their usual rioting and protesting all over the White House lawn.

Ny Times is pure lib crap. So of course they have "scientists" deeming that anyone suspicious of der fuhrer must have low self esteem and mental issues.

06-01-2013 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by pricejj (Post 3855302)
I don't believe they did it because of a youtube video. Does that make me a conspiracy theorist?

Yes, if you have any shred of doubt or disbelief in der fuhrer then you are a complete right wing whack job with guns and bombs in your shelter waiting for the end. That's what the "media" tells people.

Archer81 06-01-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jerseyboiler120 (Post 3855306)
It is political. We have a President who should be impeached for all the blatant breaches of The Constitution he's committed since the day he took office. Now there are 3 major issues that if he was a Republican the "media" would be covering non-stop 24-7 until the liberals did their usual rioting and protesting all over the White House lawn.

Ny Times is pure lib crap. So of course they have "scientists" deeming that anyone suspicious of der fuhrer must have low self esteem and mental issues.


This post is pretty much the definition of political b****fest. I'm not a fan of the president, but that is not the focus of this thread. It is conspiracy theories, and some of the OM's illustrious posters who are known for it.

Tone down the political rhetoric, please.

:Broncos:

razorwire77 06-01-2013 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rohirrim (Post 3855254)
I read a great quote from Arthur C. Clarke the other day. "Two possibilities exist: Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying." I think a lot of what human beings get tangled up in comes from the process of dealing with that terror.

Flight From Death is an interesting documentary on the concepts of humans being terrified (subconsciously), from the concept of facing mortality. Worth a look if you get a chance

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_from_Death

http://www.hulu.com/watch/173530

TheReverend 06-01-2013 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirhcyennek81 (Post 3855292)
The ending.

"Either way, the current scientific thinking suggests these beliefs are nothing more than an extreme form of cynicism, a turning away from politics and traditional media which only perpetuates the problem."

You can't trust those new news sources out there. They might be conspiracy theorists! But you can trust us, the traditional media, and our right good friends in politics.

Timing of the article is also funny. A White House buried under 3 conspiracies, one of which involves traditional media and we get an article about conspiracy theories from the NYT and how being extremely cynical of either the media or government means you may be prone to believing conspiracy theories, and therefore potentially crazy.

Plus the constant use of science/scientific just for the sake of it got on my nerves. We already know it is an article based on scientific research. Claiming it in every other sentence is filler. She have a minimum word count?

:Broncos:

I lean conservatively and was completely enraged when Obama was reelected, but it definitely seems like you're jumping at shadows here. You've taken one line of a content rich article and taken it out of context just to view it from the worst possible light (from your perspective).

I thought the extreme cynicism closing was an extremely insightful revelation, myself.

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Originally Posted by jerseyboiler120 (Post 3855306)
It is political. We have a President who should be impeached for all the blatant breaches of The Constitution he's committed since the day he took office. Now there are 3 major issues that if he was a Republican the "media" would be covering non-stop 24-7 until the liberals did their usual rioting and protesting all over the White House lawn.

Ny Times is pure lib crap. So of course they have "scientists" deeming that anyone suspicious of der fuhrer must have low self esteem and mental issues.

I was following, but your final sentence conclusion completely undercut any value in your post, imo.

pricejj 06-01-2013 12:13 PM

I will tell you that the U.S. Government injected a bunch of black males with syphillus at Tuskegee. Now I'm the crazy one?


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