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Mat'hir Uth Gan 04-20-2013 05:01 PM

Mayocks Top 100. Agree or Disagree?
 
A rundown of NFL.com draft analyst Mike Mayock's top 100 prospects heading into next week's 2013 NFL Draft.


1. Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
2. Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida
3. Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
4. Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama
5. Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon
6. Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma
7. Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
8. Jonathan Cooper, OG, North Carolina
9. Ziggy Ansah, DE, BYU
10. Barkevious Mingo, DE, LSU

11. Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
12. Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia
13. Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
14. D.J. Hayden, CB, Houston
15. D.J. Fluker, OT, Alabama
16. Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama
17. Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas
18. Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama
19. Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia
20. Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State

21. Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
22. Sylvester Williams, DT, North Carolina
23. Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame
24. Justin Pugh, OT, Syracuse
25. Matt Elam, FS, Florida
26. Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State
27. Datone Jones, DE, UCLA
28. Eric Reid,FS, LSU
29. Kyle Long,OG, Oregon
30. Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee

31. Menelik Watson, OT, Florida State
32. Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee
33. Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M
34. Kevin Minter,ILB, LSU
35. Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
36. Arthur Brown, ILB, Kansas State
37. Keenan Allen, WR, California
38. Jonathan Cyprien, FS, Florida International
39. Margus Hunt, DE, SMU
40. Kawann Short, DT, Purdue

41. EJ Manuel, QB, Florida State
42. DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson
43. Matt Barkley, QB, USC
44. Alec Ogletree, ILB, Georgia
45. Robert Woods, WR, USC
46. Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford
47. Larry Warford,, OG, Kentucky
48. Johnthan Banks, CB, Mississippi State
49. Jamie Collins, OLB, Southern Mississippi
50. Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse

51. Jamar Taylor, CB, Boise State
52. Montee Ball, RB, Wisconsin
53. Terrance Williams,, WR, Baylor
54. Cornelius Washington, OLB, Georgia
55. Brian Schwenke, C, California
56. Tank Carradine, DE, Florida State
57. D.J. Swearinger, SS, South Carolina
58. Jonathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State
59. Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State
60. Aaron Dobson, WR, Marshall

61. Terron Armstead, OT, Arkansas-Pine Bluff
62. Bennie Logan, DT, LSU
63. Giovani Bernard, RB, North Carolina
64. Sio Moore, OLB, Connecticut
65. Jon Bostic, OLB, Florida
66. Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, Connecticut
67. B.W. Webb, CB, William & Mary
68. J.J. Wilcox, FS, Georgia Southern
69. Khaseem Greene, OLB, Rutgers
70. Brian Winters, OG, Kent

71. John Jenkins, DT, Georgia
72. Dwayne Gratz, CB, Connecticut
73. Stedman Bailey, WR, West Virginia
74. Robert Alford, CB, Southeastern Louisiana
75. Andre Ellington, RB, Clemson
76. Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego State
77. William Gholston, DE, Michigan State
78. Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech
79. Alex Okafor, DE, Texas
80. Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati

81. Mike Glennon, QB, North Carolina State
82. David Bakhtiari, OT, Colorado
83. Brandon Williams, DT, Missouri Southern State
84. David Quessenberry, OT, San Jose State
85. Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon State
86. Tyler Bray, QB, Tennessee
87. Christine Michael, RB, Texas A&M
88. Markus Wheaton, WR, Oregon State
89. John Simon, DT, Ohio State
90. Dallas Thomas, OT, Tennessee

91. Barrett Jones, OG, Alabama
92. Travis Frederick, C, Wisconsin
93. Marquise Goodwin, WR, Texas
94. Le'Veon Bell, RB, Michigan State
95. Shamarko Thomas, SS, Syracuse
96. Vance McDonald, TE, Rice
97. Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama
98. Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU
99. David Amerson, CB, North Carolina State
100. Johnathan Franklin, RB, UCLA

Mat'hir Uth Gan 04-20-2013 05:09 PM

I wanted to see how our mock draft game went if Mayock was grading it, so at least based on the first 100 prospects, this is the value statistics:

Team, + or - overall draft value, draft value percentage


ARIZONA +17, 100%
(7) Eric Fisher – 1 (+6)
(38) Matt Barkley – 43 (-5)
(69) Robert Alford – 74 (-5)
(103) David Bakhtiari – 82 (+21)

ATLANTA -39, 67%
(23) Tyler Eiffert – 13 (+10)
(60) Sam Montgomery – 101 (-41)
(92) Jonathan Franklin – 100 (-8)

BALTIMORE +49, 60%
(56) Menelik Watson – 31 (+25)
(62) Phillip Thomas – 101 (-38)
(87) Brandon Jenkins – 101 (-14)
(94) Brian Schwenke – 55 (+39)
(123) Tyler Bray – 86 (+37)

BUFFALO -23, 67%
(8) Ezekial Ansah – 9 (-1)
(29) Geno Smith – 21 (+8)
(71) Da’Rick Rogers – 101 (-30)

CAROLINA 0, 100%
(14) Star Lotulelei – 11 (+3)
(44) Larry Warford – 47 (-3)
CHICAGO +10, 100%
(20) Tavon Austin – 12 (+8)
(50) Johnthan Banks – 48 (+2)

CINCINNATI -7, 75%
(21) Alec Ogletree – 44 (-23)
(36) DeAndre Hopkins – 42 (-6)
(37) John Cyprien – 38 (-1)
(86) Giovani Bernard – 63 (+23)

CLEVELAND +23, 100%
(6) Barkevious Mingo – 10 (-4)
(68) EJ Manuel – 41 (+27)

DALLAS -106, 0%
(18) Jonathan Hankins – 58 (-40)
(47) Travis Frederick – 92 (-45)
(80) Ryan Swope – 101 (-21)

DENVER +34, 25%
(28) Kawann Short – 40 (-12)
(58) Jordan Poyer – 85 (-27)
(90) Kevin Reddick – 101 (-11)
(161) William Gholston – 77 (+84)

DETROIT -80, 33%
(5) Chance Warmack – 4 (+1)
(53) Tyrann Mathieu – 98 (-45)
(65) Logan Ryan – 101 (-36)

GREEN BAY +136, 100%
(26) Kenny Vaccaro – 17 (+9)
(40) Manti Te’o – 23 (+17)
(88) Montee Ball – 52 (+36)
(167) Marquise Goodwin – 93 (+74)

HOUSTON +51, 75%
(27) Datone Jones – 27 (0)
(57) Kyle Long – 29 (+28)
(89) Aaron Dobson – 60 (+29)
(95) Trevardo Williams – 101 (-6)

INDIANAPOLIS -16, 50%
(24) Jesse Williams – 97 (-73)
(119) Bennie Logan – 62 (+57)

JACKSONVILLE - +15, 20%
(2) Demarcus Milliner – 16 (-14)
(33) Tank Carradine – 54 (-21)
(64) Quinton Patton – 78 (-14)
(98) Marcus Lattimore – 101 (-3)
(135) JJ Wilcox – 68 (+67)

KANSAS CITY +25, 100%
(1) Luke Joeckel - 3 (-2)
(19) Sheldon Richardson – 7 (+12)
(74) Darius Slay – 59 (+15)
(96) Vance McDonald – 96 (0)

MIAMI -28, 67%
(12) Jonathan Cooper – 8 (+4)
(42) Markus Wheaton – 88 (-46)
(54) Justin Hunter – 32 (+22)
(76) Gavin Escobar – 76 (0)
(77) Blidi Wreh-Wilson – 66 (+11)
(82) Corey Lemonier – 101 (-19)

MINNESOTA +97, 60%
(30) Terrance Williams – 53 (-23)
(52) Khaseem Greene – 69 (-17)
(83) Mike Glennon – 81 (+2)
(120) Jonathan Bostic – 65 (+55)
(155) Andre Ellington – 75 (+80)

NEW ENGLAND +77, 100%
(41) Sylvester Williams – 22 (+19)
(59) DJ Swearinger – 57 (+2)
(91) Stedman Bailey – 73 (+18)
(105) B.W. Webb – 67 (+38)

NEW ORLEANS +13, 67%
(17) Desmond Trufant – 35 (-18)
(75) Sio Moore – 64 (+11)
(109) John Simon – 89 (+20)

NY GIANTS -13, 33%
(22) Keenan Allen – 37 (-15)
(49) Kevin Minter – 34 (+15)
(81) Le’Veon Bell – 94 (-13)

NY JETS -19, 50%
(9) Cordarelle Patterson – 30 (-21)
(39) Damontre Moore – 33 (+6)
(72) Shamarko Thomas – 95 (-23)
(106) Christine Michael – 87 (+19)

OAKLAND +176, 100%
(3) Sharrif Floyd – 2 (+1)
(66) Terron Armstead – 61 (+5)
(100) Cornelius Washington – 54 (+46)
(138) DJ Hayden – 14 (+124)

PHILADELPHIA -7, 67%
(4) Dion Jordan – 5 (-1)
(35) Matt Elam – 25 (+10)
(67) Brandon Williams – 83 (-16)

PITTSBURGH +18, 67%
(15) Jarvis Jones – 19 (-4)
(48) Barrett Jones – 91 (-43)
(115) Ryan Nassib – 50 (+65)

SAN DIEGO +61, 100%
(11) Lane Johnson – 6 (+5)
(45) Eddie Lacy – 18 (+27)
(111) Dwayne Gratz – 72 (+29)

SAN FRANCISCO -60, 50%
(31) Margus Hunt – 39 (-8)
(61) David Amerson – 99 (-38)
(78) Chase Thomas – 101 (-23)
(93) David Quessenberry – 84 (+9)

SEATTLE -66, 0%
(25) Zach Ertz – 46 (-21)
(32) Alex Okafor – 79 (-45)

ST. LOUIS -22, 60%
(16) DJ Fluker – 15 (+1)
(34) Jamar Taylor – 51 (-16)
(46) Robert Woods – 45 (+1)
(63) Dallas Thomas – 90 (-27)
(99) Travis Kelce – 80 (+19)

TAMPA BAY +10, 75%
(13) Xavier Rhodes – 20 (-7)
(43) Eric Reid – 28 (+15)
(73) Jamie Collins – 49 (+24)
(79) Chris Faulk – 101 (-22)

TENNESSEE +25, 40%
(10) Bjoern Werner – 26 (-16)
(55) John Jenkins – 71 (-16)
(70) Justin Pugh – 24 (+46)
(85) Brian Winters – 70 (+15)
(97) Shawn Williams – 101 (-4)

WASHINGTON -1, 50%
(51) Arthur Brown – 36 (+15)
(84) Terry Hawthorne – 101 (-16)

Mat'hir Uth Gan 04-20-2013 05:11 PM

BEST Overall VALUE DRAFTS, Top 100 values Only:

1. +176 Oakland
2. +136 Green Bay
3. +97 Minnesota
4. +77 New England
5. +61 San Diego
6. +51 Houston
7. +49 Baltimore
8. +34 Denver
9. +25 Kansas City
9. +25 Tennessee
11. +23 Cleveland
12. +18 Pittsburgh
13. +17 Arizona
14. +15 Jacksonville
15. +13 New Orleans
16. +10 Chicago
16. +10 Tampa Bay
18. 0 Carolina
19. -1 Washington
20. -7 Cincinnati
20. -7 Philadelphia
22. -13 NY Giants
23. -16 Indianapolis
24. -19 NY Jets
25. -22 St. Louis
26. -23 Buffalo
27. -28 Miami
28. -39 Atlanta
29. -60 San Francisco
30. -66 Seattle
31. -80 Detroit
32. -106 Dallas




BEST % Value Drafting, Top 100 only: This is the percentage of selections that were either good value or no worse than ten selections off from Mayock's draft value.



1. 100% Arizona
1. 100% Carolina
1. 100% Chicago
1. 100% Cleveland
1. 100% Green Bay
1. 100% Kansas City
1. 100% New England
1. 100% Oakland
1. 100% San Diego
10. 75% Cincinnati
10. 75% Houston
10. 75% Tampa Bay
13. 67% Atlanta
13. 67% Buffalo
13. 67% Miami
13. 67% New Orleans
13. 67% Philadelphia
13. 67% Pittsburgh
19. 60% Baltimore
19. 60% Minnesota
19. 60% St. Louis
22. 50% Indianapolis
22. 50% NY Jets
22. 50% San Francisco
22. 50% Washington
26. 40% Tennessee
27. 33% Detroit
27. 33% NY Giants
29. 25% Denver
30. 20% Jacksonville
31. 0% Dallas
31. 0% Seattle

Endzo 04-20-2013 05:24 PM

Good stuff.

I'd like to see:

Rd 1. Arthur Brown

Rd 2. DJ Swearinger

pricejj 04-20-2013 05:25 PM

Mayock is fairly craptastic. I would start by replacing almost his entire 11-20 with his entire 21-30. I would also remove his entire 5-10 and push them down about 5 spots. The top 5 is easy, who even a blind monkey could pick.

It's funny how the national talking-head group think has pushed players like Te'o, and Lotulelei around...that's exactly how you can tell that none of those guys like Mayock have a single bone of individualism in their body.

I'm actually starting to respect Kiper more for his ideas. He was the first one on the Hayden train...then all of a sudden Hayden is Mayock's favorite CB...what a joke.

04-20-2013 05:29 PM

Le'Veon Bell below Christine Michael and Andre Ellington? Dude is on crack...

Mat'hir Uth Gan 04-20-2013 05:39 PM

Top 25 Biggest steals in our Mock Draft game according to Mayock's Top 100:

1. DJ Hayden (+124)
2. William Gholston (+84)
3. Andre Ellington (+80)
4. Marquise Goodwin (+74)
5. JJ Wilcox (+67)
6. Ryan Nassib (+65)
7. Bennie Logan (+57)
8. Jonathan Bostic (+55)
9. Justin Pugh (+46)
9. Cornelius Washington (+46)
11. Brian Schwinke (+39)
12. B.W. Webb (+38)
13. Tyler Bray (+37)
14. Montee Ball (+36)
15. Aaron Dobson (+29)
15. Dwayne Gratz (+29)
17. Kyle Long (+28)
18. Eddie Lacy (+27)
18. EJ Manuel (+27)
20. Jamie Collins (+24)
21. Giovani Bernard (+23)
22. Justin Hunter (+22)
23. John Simon (+20)
24. Christine Michael (+19)
25. Sylvester Williams (+19)



Top 25 Biggest Reaches in our Mock Game according to Mayocks Top 100:

1. Jesse Williams (-73)
2. Markus Wheaton (-46)
3. Travis Frederick (-45)
3. Tyrann Mathieu (-45)
3. Alex Okafor (-45)
6. Barrett Jones (-43)
7. Sam Montgomery (-41)
8. Jonathan Hankins (-40)
9. David Amerson (-38)
9. Phillip Thomas (-38)
11. Logan Ryan (-36)
12. Da'Rick Rogers (-30)
13. Jordan Poyer (-27)
13. Dallas Thomas (-27)
15. Alec Ogletree (-23)
15. Chase Thomas (-23)
15. Shamarko Thomas (-23)
15. Terrance Williams (-23)
19. Chris Faulk (-22)
20. Tank Carradine (-21)
20. Zach Ertz (-21)
20. Cordarelle Patterson (-21)
20. Ryan Swope (-21)
24. Corey Lemonier (-19)
25. Demond Trufant (-18)

Mat'hir Uth Gan 04-20-2013 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pricejj (Post 3831850)
Mayock is fairly craptastic. I would start by replacing almost his entire 11-20 with his entire 21-30. I would also remove his entire 5-10 and push them down about 5 spots. The top 5 is easy, who even a blind monkey could pick.

It's funny how the national talking-head group think has pushed players like Te'o, and Lotulelei around...that's exactly how you can tell that none of those guys like Mayock have a single bone of individualism in their body.

I'm actually starting to respect Kiper more for his ideas. He was the first one on the Hayden train...then all of a sudden Hayden is Mayock's favorite CB...what a joke.

I'm not overly thrilled with his list either. And I think Mayock is the best of the bunch. They all are pretty off on draft day though in terms of value, but Mayock usually does a decent job to identifying good players. A few complete duds notwithstanding.

Lestat 04-20-2013 06:00 PM

eh, i don't agree with most of the top 40 and their placement but it's still a solid list.

Mediator12 04-20-2013 06:02 PM

I like Mayock, I really do. However, his evaluation of Jesse Williams is disheartening to me. Especially when Daniel Jeremiah has him at #21 on his top 50 list. What the heck does he NOT see in Williams. Williams Floor is a solid starter @ 3-4 DE, his ceiling is Vince Wilfork with stamina to play more and to be a pocket disruptor in the pass rush. The rest of the DT's all have a little bust potential in them, I see none in Williams, and a higher ceiling than all but 4 of them. Hankins and Jenkins have big bust potential to me and have dropped accordingly, but Williams is an enigma to be rated so low with some real average guys way ahead of him on that list.

The best thing I can say is we all get blinded on certain players with no crosschecks. I have had more than few, but I also have not been this off in preseason evals before. Oh well, he likes Hayden at least ;D

gyldenlove 04-20-2013 06:04 PM

I few I disagree strongly with:

7. Sheldon Richardson - this is too high for me, he is too inconsistent to be up this high, he has a ton of talent but looks like a real bust candidate.

13. Tyler Eifert - Eifert reminds me a lot of slightly worse version of Jermaine Gresham, similar size and speed and both pretty complete players, but lacking just that last bit of speed to take over games. Gresham went 21 in a very strong 2010 draft, and I expect Eifert to end up in the same sort of range, the draft is not as strong as 2010, but Eifert is not quite as good a prospect as Gresham was.

16. Dee Milliner - CB is a prime position and they ALWAYS go higher on draft day, I just don't see this kid fall out of the top 10.

29. Kyle Long - it would be a Bruce Irvin type reach to draft this kid in the 1st round, he is not close to being the top OG in the draft and he has some serious baggage.

37. Keenan Allen - he will be one of these guys who will be sitting around on the best of the rest lists for a LONG time. His slow ass 40 time, his drug test at the combine and his poor interviews, he is in for a slide and a half.

I think a fair number of guys are a bit lower than I think they should be, mostly because of a few players who are very much higher than I think they should be.

gyldenlove 04-20-2013 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mediator12 (Post 3831867)
I like Mayock, I really do. However, his evaluation of Jesse Williams is disheartening to me. Especially when Daniel Jeremiah has him at #21 on his top 50 list. What the heck does he NOT see in Williams. Williams Floor is a solid starter @ 3-4 DE, his ceiling is Vince Wilfork with stamina to play more and to be a pocket disruptor in the pass rush. The rest of the DT's all have a little bust potential in them, I see none in Williams, and a higher ceiling than all but 4 of them. Hankins and Jenkins have big bust potential to me and have dropped accordingly, but Williams is an enigma to be rated so low with some real average guys way ahead of him on that list.

The best thing I can say is we all get blinded on certain players with no crosschecks. I have had more than few, but I also have not been this off in preseason evals before. Oh well, he likes Hayden at least ;D

The DT class is just very strong this year so there is not going to room for a guy who needs some time to develop that high in the draft.

Mediator12 04-20-2013 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gyldenlove (Post 3831869)
The DT class is just very strong this year so there is not going to room for a guy who needs some time to develop that high in the draft.

That's the thing, he is the most Plug and play DT in the draft. He played every postion in the 3-4 for Alabama, graded out over 90%, and even played a little 4-3 DT in the nickel. He played a very high % of snaps as well, more than Dareus did.

Every single other DT coming out has need to develop to impact at the next level. Williams does not. And, he has a higher ceiling, except for the few pass rushers like Richardson, Floyd, and Short. Lotulelei might be comparable, but he tires way too damn easily for me.

04-20-2013 06:21 PM

Thanks for taking the time to do this MUG..

I feel great about Phillip Thomas..

I just mentioned this in another thread, I have some concerns about how impactful the DEs will be from this draft. I find myself still wanting a rush LB, or taking a second to fourth round DE. With my preference being Quanterus Smith.

cutthemdown 04-20-2013 06:55 PM

my mock draft would kick ass according to these rankings.

eddie mac 04-20-2013 07:11 PM

He doesn't really stick his neck out at all with any valuations. There's always a few sleepers sneak into the top 100 picks in any draft that make the fans go WTF, but Mike seems to pick a top 100 that doesn't contain any real shocking selections.

eddie mac 04-20-2013 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gyldenlove (Post 3831868)
I few I disagree strongly with:

7. Sheldon Richardson - this is too high for me, he is too inconsistent to be up this high, he has a ton of talent but looks like a real bust candidate.

13. Tyler Eifert - Eifert reminds me a lot of slightly worse version of Jermaine Gresham, similar size and speed and both pretty complete players, but lacking just that last bit of speed to take over games. Gresham went 21 in a very strong 2010 draft, and I expect Eifert to end up in the same sort of range, the draft is not as strong as 2010, but Eifert is not quite as good a prospect as Gresham was.

16. Dee Milliner - CB is a prime position and they ALWAYS go higher on draft day, I just don't see this kid fall out of the top 10.

29. Kyle Long - it would be a Bruce Irvin type reach to draft this kid in the 1st round, he is not close to being the top OG in the draft and he has some serious baggage.

37. Keenan Allen - he will be one of these guys who will be sitting around on the best of the rest lists for a LONG time. His slow ass 40 time, his drug test at the combine and his poor interviews, he is in for a slide and a half.

I think a fair number of guys are a bit lower than I think they should be, mostly because of a few players who are very much higher than I think they should be.

Isn't Mayock a Notre Dame nut??? Not surprised at how highly he ranks Eifert considering he's likely watched every single second of tape he's ever done since he picked up a ball. Sure he had Motta in his pre-combine top 5 safeties.:giggle:

cutthemdown 04-20-2013 07:18 PM

Eifert will be one of those TE you have to really clamp down on in the redzone though. He may be better in the pros then in college.

He doesn't look as fast as guys like Gronk/Graham but on tape he sure catches the ball nice and has great body control. Man I would be super excited if broncos added a killer TE. Hell we could be going for best passing attack ever at that point.

I happen to think DT might be emerging as the 2nd best WR after Megatron so if we add to many more weapons the offense could hit 40 points with regularity.

cutthemdown 04-20-2013 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie mac (Post 3831912)
He doesn't really stick his neck out at all with any valuations. There's always a few sleepers sneak into the top 100 picks in any draft that make the fans go WTF, but Mike seems to pick a top 100 that doesn't contain any real shocking selections.

So much information out there about players, scouting reports, senior bowl reports, youtube videos of tape and on and on even someone like me who doesn't follow college football can come up with a pretty decent top 100.

Now if one of us could do it without the interent I would be impressed. Seriously though how could any one person watch that much football and talk to that many people? Hell I bet one of us could do the Broncos draft using a top 100 we come up with here on the board and we could get a b grade from espn lol.

gyldenlove 04-20-2013 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie mac (Post 3831915)
Isn't Mayock a Notre Dame nut??? Not surprised at how highly he ranks Eifert considering he's likely watched every single second of tape he's ever done since he picked up a ball. Sure he had Motta in his pre-combine top 5 safeties.:giggle:

Mayock does commentary on all Notre Dame games I believe during the season so he does see a lot of the ND players.

gyldenlove 04-20-2013 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cutthemdown (Post 3831922)
Eifert will be one of those TE you have to really clamp down on in the redzone though. He may be better in the pros then in college.

He doesn't look as fast as guys like Gronk/Graham but on tape he sure catches the ball nice and has great body control. Man I would be super excited if broncos added a killer TE. Hell we could be going for best passing attack ever at that point.

I happen to think DT might be emerging as the 2nd best WR after Megatron so if we add to many more weapons the offense could hit 40 points with regularity.

That is why I think he is like Gresham, he is a red zone target and a 3rd down guy but he won't stretch the field and he is not a guy who is going to threaten 1000 yards per season.

Bigdawg26 04-20-2013 09:05 PM

I stopped paying attention to Mayock after he said Ayers would be the best defensive player in the draft.

04-20-2013 09:33 PM

MUG thanks for posting that info. Pretty sweet stuff

pricejj 04-21-2013 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mat'hir Uth Gan (Post 3831857)
I'm not overly thrilled with his list either. And I think Mayock is the best of the bunch. They all are pretty off on draft day though in terms of value, but Mayock usually does a decent job to identifying good players. A few complete duds notwithstanding.

I like listening to Mayock, as I'm sure we all do, because we love football and player evaluation. He probably has more access to all of these players year-in and year-out of anybody on the planet. Because of that exposure, he will bring attention to some players that I otherwise never would have heard of. But I don't trust his talent evaluation. Neither do NFL GM's (except for Josh McDaniels, who basically drafted according to Mayock's board).

Mayock also severely inflates a lot of players that play in the Senior Bowl...I think to try to persuade NFL teams to draft them high, so he can say, "see look at all the players who made money this week", when he's commentating the game. It's like his personal showcase of himself.

TheChamp24 04-21-2013 07:01 PM

I just don't get it with some guys. Landry Jones and Kenny Stills, both were productive at OU and have great skills, yet are overlooked.


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