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KevinJames 03-13-2013 07:17 PM

Dumervil situation is kinda sad but it could be a sticky situation if he takes the pay cut.
 
(I know I made the Dumervil memories thread because I sadly believe he is gone, but I hope not I really want to be wrong, hes a great player 3rd or 4th best player on the team.)

So what we know is

Dumervil won't be here come Friday IF he doesn't accept a 6 Million a year deal the Broncos put on the table. Unless the Broncos somehow give him the money he was going to get anyway without it really killing the cap, but the Broncos don't want to, they said 6 mil. take it or leave it.

Denver doesn't sound like they will up the offer, even though I hope they do.

If he does accept the deal, do you think he could be unhappy with the Broncos and do you think he might demand a trade? Or does he just say cut me ill let the market decide my value.

Hes a better pass rusher than Avril better player overall too, honestly Avril is like a poor mans Dumervil and he got 7 a year. I think hes much better than Kruger and he got 8 Million a year.

I really don't get the low balling of Dumervil I don't get it at all. Hes willing to take a pay cut, but half of the man's salary? After coming off a hell of a season?

Rabb 03-13-2013 07:20 PM

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Br0nc0Buster 03-13-2013 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinJames (Post 3812258)
So what we know is

Dumervil won't be here come Friday IF he doesn't accept a 6 Million a year deal.

Denver doesn't sound like they will up the offer, even though I hope they do.

If he does accept the deal, do you think he could be unhappy with the Broncos and do you think he might demand a trade? Or does he just say cut me ill let the market decide my value.

Hes a better pass rusher than Avril better player overall too, honestly Avril is like a poor mans Dumervil and he got 7 a year. I think hes much better than Kruger and he got 8 Million a year.

I really don't get the low balling of Dumervil I don't get it at all. Hes willing to take a pay cut, but half of the man's salary? After coming off a hell of a season?

I honestly think they feel they can scheme out Doom, and would rather use his cap room to fill up other needs
Maybe they are really high on Ayers, maybe they like some of the guys in this rookie class
I wouldnt be surprised if they fill they can get acceptable production from a guy like Ayers and a pass rushing specialist for a fraction of Dooms cost in order to sign Welker, Pot Roast, etc...

I really hope they can work it out to keep Doom, but I dont think that will happen

KevinJames 03-13-2013 07:21 PM

Doom is one of my favorite players, thought he was going to be a Bronco for life.

RMT 03-13-2013 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinJames (Post 3812258)
So what we know is

Dumervil won't be here come Friday IF he doesn't accept a 6 Million a year deal the Broncos put on the table. Unless the Broncos somehow give him the money he was going to get anyway without it really killing the cap, but the Broncos don't want to, they said 6 mil. take it or leave it.

Denver doesn't sound like they will up the offer, even though I hope they do.

If he does accept the deal, do you think he could be unhappy with the Broncos and do you think he might demand a trade? Or does he just say cut me ill let the market decide my value.

Hes a better pass rusher than Avril better player overall too, honestly Avril is like a poor mans Dumervil and he got 7 a year. I think hes much better than Kruger and he got 8 Million a year.

I really don't get the low balling of Dumervil I don't get it at all. Hes willing to take a pay cut, but half of the man's salary? After coming off a hell of a season?

The guy made upwards of $10,000,000 in 2010 to rehab a preseason injury that cost him the entire season. I'm not blaming him for that, but it goes both ways. While $6M may seem a bit low, I do not feel it is an insulting request from the Broncos.

DivineLegion 03-13-2013 07:23 PM

$20 says the Pats sign Doom if we release him.

Broncojef 03-13-2013 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinJames (Post 3812258)
So what we know is

Dumervil won't be here come Friday IF he doesn't accept a 6 Million a year deal.

Denver doesn't sound like they will up the offer, even though I hope they do.

If he does accept the deal, do you think he could be unhappy with the Broncos and do you think he might demand a trade? Or does he just say cut me ill let the market decide my value.

Hes a better pass rusher than Avril better player overall too, honestly Avril is like a poor mans Dumervil and he got 7 a year. I think hes much better than Kruger and he got 8 Million a year.

I really don't get the low balling of Dumervil I don't get it at all. Hes willing to take a pay cut, but half of the man's salary? After coming off a hell of a season?

Kruger set the market as the first to get signed to a team with big bucks and he only commanded $8Mill. I think Avril was the best DE on the market (including Doom) and he took $7.5. Not only has the max value been set, the teams with large bankrolls are spending it on the current guys available. Doom and his agent decided to test the Broncos and the market, the game is being played around their decision. Making a poor decision has cost him money and if he's bitter about it he can walk and take less money elsewhere.

Archer81 03-13-2013 07:25 PM

Maybe they feel $12 mil a year is a bit much for a one dimensional defender. The market thus far is showing DE's earning between 7 and 8 million. Broncos asking Dumervil to take a cut in that range is to be expected. Its up to him where he plays this season.

:Broncos:

errand 03-13-2013 07:29 PM

Maybe they offered him $6 mill because they figured they'd have to spend $10 mill on Welker....and now since Welker signed for 46 mil, they'll boost their take it or leave it offer to $10mil....who knows?

He hasn't been released yet, and that's a good sign.

MagicHef 03-13-2013 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinJames (Post 3812258)
(I know I made the Dumervil memories thread because I sadly believe he is gone, but I hope not I really want to be wrong, hes a great player 3rd or 4th best player on the team.)

So what we know is

Dumervil won't be here come Friday IF he doesn't accept a 6 Million a year deal the Broncos put on the table. Unless the Broncos somehow give him the money he was going to get anyway without it really killing the cap, but the Broncos don't want to, they said 6 mil. take it or leave it.

Denver doesn't sound like they will up the offer, even though I hope they do.

If he does accept the deal, do you think he could be unhappy with the Broncos and do you think he might demand a trade? Or does he just say cut me ill let the market decide my value.

Hes a better pass rusher than Avril better player overall too, honestly Avril is like a poor mans Dumervil and he got 7 a year. I think hes much better than Kruger and he got 8 Million a year.

I really don't get the low balling of Dumervil I don't get it at all. Hes willing to take a pay cut, but half of the man's salary? After coming off a hell of a season?

Where did this information come from?

Br0nc0Buster 03-13-2013 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 3812276)
Where did this information come from?

Brandon Spano lol

Archer81 03-13-2013 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by errand (Post 3812275)
Maybe they offered him $6 mill because they figured they'd have to spend $10 mill on Welker....and now since Welker signed for 46 mil, they'll boost their take it or leave it offer to $10mil....who knows?

He hasn't been released yet, and that's a good sign.


Welker signed a 2 year, $12 million deal.

:Broncos:

Gutless Drunk 03-13-2013 07:32 PM

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Hamrob 03-13-2013 07:33 PM

Doom is a good to great pass rusher. At 255 lbs he is a liability against the run. I love him. But, I have been disapointed the past two years with him....especially when you have a guy like Miller on the other side. You would think that with Miller getting double teamed...Doom would have been even more of a beast. He wasn't.

He still will get us 10-12 sacks opposite of Miller and that's no slap in the face...but, $6-$7m/yr is fair. He needs to accept that or hit the road.

Otherwise, sign Freeney for $3-$4m/yr on a 2yr deal and roll with it!

Br0nc0Buster 03-13-2013 07:34 PM

Spano saying Manning willing to restructure and also that Denver is interested in Nhamdi(what?)

KevinJames 03-13-2013 07:40 PM

Who is Spano? I heard they offered doom half on espn news radio john clayton was on there it was a seattle station I think I live in WA.

MagicHef 03-13-2013 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamrob (Post 3812287)
Doom is a good to great pass rusher. At 255 lbs he is a liability against the run. I love him. But, I have been disapointed the past two years with him....especially when you have a guy like Miller on the other side. You would think that with Miller getting double teamed...Doom would have been even more of a beast. He wasn't.

He still will get us 10-12 sacks opposite of Miller and that's no slap in the face...but, $6-$7m/yr is fair. He needs to accept that or hit the road.

Otherwise, sign Freeney for $3-$4m/yr on a 2yr deal and roll with it!

Miller typically does not get double teamed. Since offenses don't know if he's rushing or not, they can't commit two blockers to him. Thus, Doom normally gets the double teams, which makes his production more impressive, imo.

03-13-2013 07:44 PM

6 million is a total slap in the face to Dumervil. I sincerely hope that number is untrue. Dumervil is a better pure pass rusher than all but maybe 5 guys in the league. People on this board (and in general) focus too much on sack numbers alone when assessing a pass rusher's impact. Doom should at least receive money on par with Kruger.

theAPAOps5 03-13-2013 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rabb (Post 3812260)

This..... Again

OBF1 03-13-2013 07:54 PM

I so wish they would just cut him so the OP will do his last ass kissing goodbye to doom thread. Enough is enough already.

MagicHef 03-13-2013 07:56 PM

If the Broncos are so sure Dumervil won't get more than they're offering, why don't they just release him, and leave their offer on the table? If it's all he can really hope to get, he'll come back.

Mogulseeker 03-13-2013 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Broncojef (Post 3812268)
Kruger set the market as the first to get signed to a team with big bucks and he only commanded $8Mill. I think Avril was the best DE on the market (including Doom) and he took $7.5. Not only has the max value been set, the teams with large bankrolls are spending it on the current guys available. Doom and his agent decided to test the Broncos and the market, the game is being played around their decision. Making a poor decision has cost him money and if he's bitter about it he can walk and take less money elsewhere.

Pretty much all this.

Mogulseeker 03-13-2013 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 3812334)
If the Broncos are so sure Dumervil won't get more than they're offering, why don't they just release him, and leave their offer on the table? If it's all he can really hope to get, he'll come back.

Because the guaranteed money in his contract would still count against the cap.

03-13-2013 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Br0nc0Buster (Post 3812290)
Spano saying Manning willing to restructure and also that Denver is interested in Nhamdi(what?)

Nhamdhi is out now that DRC signed

KevinJames 03-13-2013 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBF1 (Post 3812330)
I so wish they would just cut him so the OP will do his last ass kissing goodbye to doom thread. Enough is enough already.

I LOL'd


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