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pricejj 03-08-2013 03:56 PM

2013 Broncos Salary Cap: Looking Decent
 
Editing this post regarding Free Agency...


If the Broncos cut DJ Williams and Joe Mays, their cap number is still $130M.

They are allowed to use the $14M rollover from last year. If they add Terrance Knighton (~2.5M), and Sean Smith (~$4M), their 2013 cap number goes over $136.5M...giving them a bloated roster heading into 2014.

That is precisely why they need to cut Dumervil's salary NOW. I believe more players will be cut in 2014 (Prater?, Moreno?, etc.) to make room for re-signing Beadles, Walton, Decker, Woodyard...and bumping up Miller's salary a few million.

Too bad Manning won't take a pay-cut from $20M.


Code:

Index        Pos.        Player        2013
Offense       
               
1        1WR        D. Thomas        $2.43
2        2WR        Eric Decker        $1.51
3        3WR        Brandon Stokley        $1.00
4        4WR        Andre Caldwell        $0.90
5        5WR        Matthew Willis        $1.32
6        6WR        T. Holliday        $0.48
7        LT        Ryan Clady        $9.83
8        LG        Zane Beadles        $1.06
9        C        J.D. Walton        $1.52
10        RG        Chris Kuper        $5.42
11        RT        O. Franklin        $1.19
12        OL Res.        Dan Koppen        $1.00
13        OL Res.        Manny Ramirez        $0.80
14        OL Res.        Chris Clark        $1.32
15        1TE        Joel Dreessen        $3.33
16        2TE        Jacob Tamme        $3.46
17        3TE        Virgil Green        $0.57
18        4TE        Julius Thomas        $0.65
19        1QB        Peyton Manning        $20.00
20        2QB        Brock Osweiler        $0.80
21        3QB        Caleb Hanie        $1.38
22        1RB        Willis McGahee        $3.00
23        2RB        Ronnie Hillman        $0.69
24        3RB        Knowshon Moreno        $3.29
25        1FB        Jacob Hester        $0.72
                Offense Total        $67.66
                       
Defense                       
26        1LCB        Champ Bailey        $10.50
27        2LCB        Chris Harris        $0.56
28        3LCB        2nd Round Draft        $1.00
29        1LDE        Derek Wolfe        $1.04
30        2LDE        Malik Jackson        $0.53
31        1NT        Kevin Vickerson        $2.50
32        2NT        Mitch Unrein        $1.32
33        3NT        Sealver Siliga        $0.48
34        1UT        FA Starting NT        x
35        2UT        1st Round Draft        $2.00
36        1RDE        Elvis Dumervil        $13.62
37        2RDE        Robert Ayers        $2.24
38        1RCB        FA Starting CB        x
39        2RCB        Tony Carter        $1.32
40        3RCB        Omar Bolden        $0.60
41        SOLB        Von Miller        $5.73
42        MLB        Nate Irving        $0.73
43        WOLB        Wesley Woodyard        $3.25
44        LB Res.        Danny Trevathan        $0.51
45        LB Res.        Steven Johnson        $0.48
46        LB Res.        3rd Round Draft        $0.60
47        1SS        Mike Adams        $2.00
48        2SS        David Bruton        $1.50
49        1FS        Rahim Moore        $1.21
50        2FS        Quinton Carter        $0.67
                Defense Total        $54.40
                       
                Dead Money       
                Current Total        $1.00
                DJ Williams        $2.08
                Joe Mays        $0.83
                Dead Money Tot.        $3.92

                Special Teams       
51        LS        Aaron Brewer        $0.48
52        K        Matt Prater        $3.31
53        P        B.Colquitt        $1.32
                ST Total        $5.12       
               
                       
                NFL Salary Cap        $123.00
                Top 51 Total        $129.83
                True Cap Space        -$6.83 (over)
                2012 Carryover        $14.10
                Remaining 2013        $7.27 (this can be spent FA 2013 or carryover)


SonOfLe-loLang 03-08-2013 04:00 PM

I'm not a capologist, know next to nothing about how that works, but i bet you the above is horribly misleading

pricejj 03-08-2013 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang (Post 3807420)
I'm not a capologist, know next to nothing about how that works, but i bet you the above is horribly misleading

It's not. Check spotrac.com, and add it up yourself.

They even tendered Colquitt a "Right of First Refusal" contract today, which is $1M less than the 2nd-round tender...and is a big gamble.

Every dollar counts.

I assume they will try to sign Knighton and a CB (like Gamble) in FA.

Requiem 03-08-2013 04:08 PM

That includes people who were signed to future contracts and tendered RFA contracts do not count unless they make the team. A bunch of those guys are going to be gone and FWIW, they have the total amount of contracts added (with salary and bonus) and includes dead cap space.

And it comes out to:

114,653,249

Which roughly puts us at 10 million under, before any of our guys are re-signed and any cuts of guys we have now or restructures.

And FWIW, I doubt that all those future contracts that account for over 5,000,000 are going to make the roster anyways...

RunSilentRunDeep 03-08-2013 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pricejj (Post 3807419)
2013 NFL Salary Cap: $123M
Broncos Current cap number: $114.7M
Broncos Cap Number after cutting DJ and Mays (-$9.3M): $105.4M
Draft pick allocation (+$5M): $110.4M
"Right of First Refusal for Colquitt, Ball, Clark (+$3.9M): $114.3M
RFA Tender for Unrein and Carter (+$1.3M): [B]$115.6M[/B] (current cap number)
Broncos are trying to resign Bruton before FA (+$2M): $117.6M
Broncos trying to resign Vickerson before FA (+2.5M): $120.1M

Even if the Broncos cut DJ Williams and Joe Mays, they only have $3M to spend in Free Agency (at most).

The Broncos would still need to sign a starting Defensive Tackle to take the place of Bannan. If the Broncos resign Bannan ($1M), they would only have $2M to spend in Free Agency. That is why they want to restructure Dumervil.

So much fail. First you assume a team with six picks -- and picking late inevery round -- will be at the very high end on the rookie allocation pool.

Then you add a bunch of players as if every dime of their salary counts instead of just the difference between the new deal/tender and the player that would get taken off the Top 51.

ludo21 03-08-2013 04:10 PM

im sure we will be just fine getting the players we want..

brother love 03-08-2013 04:10 PM

Yeah and the 49ers are 1 million under the cap and after the Alex Smith trade goes through they still don't have enough money for Revis.

Atwater His Ass 03-08-2013 04:13 PM

The "reality" lost me when you don't know the difference between resign and re-sign.

pricejj 03-08-2013 04:29 PM

Updated

03-08-2013 05:08 PM

Does mike Sullivan approve of this post? Don't tell dumervil they are in decent shape. He needs to assume they are strapped for cash this offseason.

BroncoBrett 03-08-2013 05:14 PM

Where is Clady's cap hit? He says he won't sign his tender. So I'm assuming he will get a long term contract before they let him walk.

pricejj 03-08-2013 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoBrett (Post 3807449)
Where is Clady's cap hit? He says he won't sign his tender. So I'm assuming he will get a long term contract before they let him walk.

Clady's $9.8M Franchise tender is already included in the original total.

BroncoBrett 03-09-2013 09:59 AM

Gottcha..

pricejj 03-09-2013 11:45 PM

Updated with a comprehensive roster salary table. Check it out in the OP.

It's going to be pretty dicey in 2014. They need to be able to hold onto Dumervil WITH him accepting a paycut. Tough to keep improving this roster while holding onto all of our own young FA's and adding players that we NEED for the team to get better.

Fair sailing to the FO...they're gonna need it.

UberBroncoMan 03-10-2013 04:40 AM

I've always been curious why Manning wanted a $20 mill salary with his current fortune and the extra he makes from endorsements. If he wants another Super Bowl that salary only hurts the team he's on. In his shoes at his age and point in career I'm playing for $10 mill a year, but then again I don't know his current finances.

extralife 03-10-2013 04:55 AM

Projecting the 2014 cap situation in 2013 by just transferring over each contract is absurd. Check it out: you can cut people next year, too.

In addition to the things others have mentioned, you have Vickerson listed at 2.5 million. He's a free agent.

pricejj 03-10-2013 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by extralife (Post 3807967)
Projecting the 2014 cap situation in 2013 by just transferring over each contract is absurd. Check it out: you can cut people next year, too.

The problem is, this team only has two players who's annual salary is getting SMALLER (Bailey and Dumervil). All the other players are getting yearly raises. If you have one player taking up $20M (Manning), the rest of the 52 players can only average $2M salaries...that equates to a roster filled with mediocre talent (which is what the Broncos will have going into the 2014 season), unless Peyton Manning takes a major pay-cut.

In addition to the things others have mentioned, you have Vickerson listed at 2.5 million. He's a free agent.[/QUOTE]

Yes, that's what I assume he signs for (which is a fraction of what Bunkley makes with similar production). I also put down Bruton for $1.5M (as an estimated contract). I don't imagine the Broncos will be able to find a decent starting NT for less than that, unless they draft one, and plug him in immediately.


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