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cutthemdown 03-01-2013 04:52 PM

DHS releases thousands of illegals in political move
 
http://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-d...-politics.html

The Homeland Security Department released from its jails more than 2,000 illegal immigrants facing deportation in recent weeks due to looming budget cuts and planned to release 3,000 more during March, The Associated Press has learned.

The newly disclosed figures, cited in internal budget documents reviewed by the AP, are significantly higher than the "few hundred" illegal immigrants the Obama administration acknowledged this week had been released under the budget-savings process.


The government documents show that Immigrations and Customs Enforcement released roughly 1,000 illegal immigrants from its jails around the U.S. each week since at least Feb. 15. The agency's field offices have reported more than 2,000 immigrants released before intense criticism this week led to a temporary shutdown of the plan, according to the documents.


The states where immigrants were released include Arizona, California, Georgia and Texas.

what a joke you know they don't need to do this. If one of these deportees commits a crime its on Obama.

peacepipe 03-01-2013 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown (Post 3804017)
http://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-d...-politics.html

The Homeland Security Department released from its jails more than 2,000 illegal immigrants facing deportation in recent weeks due to looming budget cuts and planned to release 3,000 more during March, The Associated Press has learned.

The newly disclosed figures, cited in internal budget documents reviewed by the AP, are significantly higher than the "few hundred" illegal immigrants the Obama administration acknowledged this week had been released under the budget-savings process.


The government documents show that Immigrations and Customs Enforcement released roughly 1,000 illegal immigrants from its jails around the U.S. each week since at least Feb. 15. The agency's field offices have reported more than 2,000 immigrants released before intense criticism this week led to a temporary shutdown of the plan, according to the documents.


The states where immigrants were released include Arizona, California, Georgia and Texas.

what a joke you know they don't need to do this. If one of these deportees commits a crime its on Obama.

Ehh, their only crime was being illegal. They're not hardened thugs/murderers being released.

cutthemdown 03-01-2013 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by peacepipe (Post 3804023)
Ehh, their only crime was being illegal. They're not hardened thugs/murderers being released.

These are all ones Obama said should be deported. Ones who won't be getting to be US citizens. Why not just be able to say once in awhile something your precious govt does isn't right when a Democrat is in office.

elsid13 03-01-2013 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown (Post 3804027)
These are all ones Obama said should be deported. Ones who won't be getting to be US citizens. Why not just be able to say once in awhile something your precious govt does isn't right when a Democrat is in office.

They were release because they can not afford to keep them in detention centers. It cost US about $15K to hold them til trail (DUE PROCESS) vs $1100.00 to put on the ankle bracelets. You know all that wasteful spending that you are b****ing about.

Play2win 03-01-2013 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by peacepipe (Post 3804023)
Ehh, their only crime was being illegal. They're not hardened thugs/murderers being released.

LOL

A bankrobber could say the same thing.

El Minion 03-01-2013 06:23 PM

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cutthemdown 03-01-2013 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by elsid13 (Post 3804030)
They were release because they can not afford to keep them in detention centers. It cost US about $15K to hold them til trail (DUE PROCESS) vs $1100.00 to put on the ankle bracelets. You know all that wasteful spending that you are b****ing about.

doing things that jeopordize public safety first is all politics. Whats next throw preschoolers out of school on tv? Why not just get with Congress and make a reasonable compromise that doesn't involve another tax raise.

elsid13 03-01-2013 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown (Post 3804066)
doing things that jeopordize public safety first is all politics. Whats next throw preschoolers out of school on tv? Why not just get with Congress and make a reasonable compromise that doesn't involve another tax raise.

When did closing tax loopholes become a tax raise??? There is no reasonable compromise that Republicans will accept from Obama, the indoctrination and blind faith that they hold in Rand and that bull**** is destroying their ability to reasonable.

cutthemdown 03-01-2013 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by elsid13 (Post 3804069)
When did closing tax loopholes become a tax raise??? There is no reasonable compromise that Republicans will accept from Obama, the indoctrination and blind faith that they hold in Rand and that bull**** is destroying their ability to reasonable.

Obama got his income tax raised on the rich, he now has to make some cuts. He wouldn't so we get the sequester. The closing of loopholes should be after along with corp tax reform that includes a new corp tax system for overseas profits.

peacepipe 03-01-2013 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Play2win (Post 3804049)
LOL

A bankrobber could say the same thing.

Someone coming over the border for a better life is no better than a bank robber,good to know where you stand.

peacepipe 03-01-2013 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown (Post 3804075)
Obama got his income tax raised on the rich, he now has to make some cuts. He wouldn't so we get the sequester. The closing of loopholes should be after along with corp tax reform that includes a new corp tax system for overseas profits.

Gwb got his tax hike on the rich or did I miss the fact that the gwb tax cuts weren't permanent.
Obama stopped 98% of America from getting a tax hike.

peacepipe 03-01-2013 08:08 PM

It's funny how conservatives ignore the fact that had Obama not got his way everybody's taxes would've went up.

Play2win 03-01-2013 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by peacepipe (Post 3804087)
Someone coming over the border for a better life is no better than a bank robber,good to know where you stand.

The bankrobber is trying for a better life, too.

But, keep rationalizing...

peacepipe 03-01-2013 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Play2win (Post 3804122)
The bankrobber is trying for a better life, too.

But, keep rationalizing...

You're the one rationalizing,don't kid yourself.

Play2win 03-01-2013 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by peacepipe (Post 3804132)
You're the one rationalizing,don't kid yourself.

LOL

See ya, but I wouldn't want to be ya.

ant1999e 03-02-2013 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by peacepipe (Post 3804089)
It's funny how conservatives ignore the fact that had Obama not got his way everybody's taxes would've went up.

Payroll tax holiday.

cutthemdown 03-02-2013 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by peacepipe (Post 3804089)
It's funny how conservatives ignore the fact that had Obama not got his way everybody's taxes would've went up.

There are a lot more new Obama taxes then just the over 400 grand a yr for rich people. He let payroll tax go back up but also lots of taxes hooked to Obamacare. It's time to just cut some spending and then yes tackle tax reform.

Especially corp tax reform to get companies like GE and the oil companies paying some tax on their offshore profits. Right now we demand 35% and that is too high because they had to pay tax in host country.

So yes lower corp taxes for offshore companies, then eliminate the loopholes that allow them to offshore all the profits. That way that money comes home, and the govt makes a small % of tax on it. Problem with Obama is he wants to slam dunk win every issue with a huge tax increase on it.

Pony Boy 03-02-2013 07:40 AM

It's all in the grand scheme of things, 5,000 illegal immigrants running free and all breeding like rats filling the hospitals with babies born in the U.S. These Obamacare babies are all guaranteed to be future democrats, is this a great country or what?

03-02-2013 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by peacepipe (Post 3804089)
It's funny how conservatives ignore the fact that had Obama not got his way everybody's taxes would've went up.

Its funny how you guys set this up. You set tax cuts to expire. Then when/if you raise taxes you say you're just letting tax cuts "expire" so if you let any of them remain you're doing some big favor for somebody.

So let's turn that around. Sequester isn't really a spending cut. Its just allowing some of the spending increases since 2008 expire. LOL

You're lucky they didn't cut them all.

At the root of this mentality is that all things first belong to government. What they allow you to keep is apparently up to their discretion.

peacepipe 03-02-2013 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown (Post 3804185)
There are a lot more new Obama taxes then just the over 400 grand a yr for rich people. He let payroll tax go back up but also lots of taxes hooked to Obamacare. It's time to just cut some spending and then yes tackle tax reform.

Especially corp tax reform to get companies like GE and the oil companies paying some tax on their offshore profits. Right now we demand 35% and that is too high because they had to pay tax in host country.

So yes lower corp taxes for offshore companies, then eliminate the loopholes that allow them to offshore all the profits. That way that money comes home, and the govt makes a small % of tax on it. Problem with Obama is he wants to slam dunk win every issue with a huge tax increase on it.

Tough ****,what a corp. Has to pay another country is not our problem. It's the cost of doing business.

peacepipe 03-02-2013 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ant1999e (Post 3804177)
Payroll tax holiday.

Payroll tax went back to its intended rate. Hence why it's called"holiday".

TonyR 03-02-2013 10:22 AM

It's funny how, over and over again, cutthemdown blames Obama for things that are the responsibility of Congress to address.

gunns 03-02-2013 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown (Post 3804066)
doing things that jeopordize public safety first is all politics. Whats next throw preschoolers out of school on tv? Why not just get with Congress and make a reasonable compromise that doesn't involve another tax raise.

No, the next thing to jeopardize public safety is a limited amount of people to inspect food products, particularly meat. I find that much scarier than releasing illegal aliens who are primarily working stiffs like the rest of us. DHS is notorious for rounding up the ones that ARE contributing to society. And I fail to see how this is solely Obama's fault. Both sides agreed to these budget cuts if they were to behave like idiots and they have.

elsid13 03-02-2013 10:53 AM

So when closing tax loop holes become a bad thing? People hitched about "pork" projects; but tax loopholes are far more of an issue unless you in the pocket of the special interests

cutthemdown 03-02-2013 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gunns (Post 3804258)
No, the next thing to jeopardize public safety is a limited amount of people to inspect food products, particularly meat. I find that much scarier than releasing illegal aliens who are primarily working stiffs like the rest of us. DHS is notorious for rounding up the ones that ARE contributing to society. And I fail to see how this is solely Obama's fault. Both sides agreed to these budget cuts if they were to behave like idiots and they have.

It's Obamas fault because he is trying to target the most important things first to make a point. Like not deploying the air craft carrier when you know the military has other waste they could cut first.

Like letting prisoners go before any other things were cut? It's a provocative move meant to scrore political points.


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