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Old Dude 02-28-2013 12:34 PM

Those who do not learn from history...
 
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/0...r-in-playoffs/

socalorado 02-28-2013 12:44 PM

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In before Rev

Rohirrim 02-28-2013 12:58 PM

Well, Harbaugh said he loved him some Alex Smith too. Just sayin'...

02-28-2013 01:04 PM

He had a great year and was one of the best tacklers on the team. Manning threw the game ending Int. Are Elway and Fox going to stand by him? Is there an article about this?

Old Dude 02-28-2013 01:43 PM

Moore had a mediocre year after a terrible rookie season and got burned in historic fashion trying to be a hotdog, destroying Denver's best shot at the Super Bowl in more than a decade. Other than that, he had a fine season.

Play2win 02-28-2013 01:49 PM

Just more propaganda by fauxnews :)

gyldenlove 02-28-2013 02:05 PM

It is ridiculous, clearly Moore failed in his first playoff start should be better. At least Elway knows from own experience that if you fail in your first playoff game you have no chance of ever succeeding.....

02-28-2013 02:06 PM

I don't trust rahim the dream either. I've been advocating picking up a guy like woodson or reed in free agency

Requiem 02-28-2013 02:16 PM

Considering we have interviewed a half dozen safeties and more corners than you can imagine, I highly doubt that the Broncos are "content" with their position as the article indicates. When you bring in John Lynch to Indy to help you evaluate the position, it is clearing going to get upgraded.

We aren't stupid, FOXNEWS!

gunns 02-28-2013 02:28 PM

Well judging from some things Elway has said in the past I may just chalk this up to Elway being "politically correct".

I'm hoping he looks at this game like Shanahan looked at the Jacksonville game and fills the needed areas with FA. There were only 3 draft picks that year and none contributed much at all. We need to win now. But I want a new safety, probably more than a CB and I hope Elway is suggesting Moore will remain on the team but may not be the starter.

Requiem 02-28-2013 02:31 PM

DL, CB, LB, S -- pick a guy from each of these spots.

WR, RB, OL on offense.

Oh darn, we only have 6 picks.

OK, get a free agent somewhere. :)

cutthemdown 02-28-2013 02:36 PM

It was an epic misplay on Moores part but you have to stick with him. He's a good player and we have bigger needs. Remember had we been better running the ball at the end Moore would not have been on the field. Had Bailey not gotten burnt a couple times, had Manning played better, etc etc. So we can improve the team most IMO by taking a CB, linebackers who can cover TE, DT who can rush the passer.

cutthemdown 02-28-2013 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Requiem (Post 3803304)
DL, CB, LB, S -- pick a guy from each of these spots.

WR, RB, OL on offense.

Oh darn, we only have 6 picks.

OK, get a free agent somewhere. :)

I think cross off safety because we have a young one already. Instead rent another vet safety and hope hes better then Adams.

But.....looking at Mock drafts there is a good chance that CB and Safety present themself with value at our spots. So Elway could say lets really get younger on the back end. Keep Moore, draft a CB, draft a safety and prepare for Bailey not being worth 10 mil a season or whatever it is he makes.

TheElusiveKyleOrton 02-28-2013 02:43 PM

I have a lot of respect for Moore. He could have gotten out of that locker room without talking to the media, but he stood up like a man and took what was coming to him. He knows he ****ed up, and he manned up about it.

He's not a perfect player; in fact he's far from it. I'd love to have a shot at Reed or Woodson.

Old Dude would like you all to know he's never ever made a mistake.

Requiem 02-28-2013 02:44 PM

Cut, remember that Adams deal expires after next year. Quinton Carter definitely showed promise, but he had microfracture -- he is an unknown. I love Bruton as a reserve safety and special teams player, but that is what he is. So essentially we have Moore, Carter, Adams (contract year) and FA in Bruton (who they will re-sign) and Jim Leonhard (FA).

Three guys on the team, one was on IR last year.

For Elway to say they are fine there is hore****.

He even said UDFA Stevie Johnson will compete at MIKE with Nate Irving (special teams guys) to be a starter. Not to mention the FA we have there and the likelihood of Williams getting dumped.

Does Elway think we are stupid?

Everyone knows that DB/LB is a big need for this team. If they stick with what they got and don't improve there, they are a-holes of the highest level.

Watch them blow our first round pick on some turd who doesn't even contribute right away.

Kaylore 02-28-2013 02:45 PM

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broncosteven 02-28-2013 02:47 PM

John gave KM some great press then KM spent the majority of the season inactive.

I think he is just saying the right things to keep Moore's head in the game.

They already fired his position coach, I don't think Moore has been a stud safety but he is better than most. Bring in some competition and if he can't win the gig in TC then it is his loss.

I don't have high hopes of Carter replacing him, I thought Carter was even worse than Moore. I wouldn't mind seeing us draft a safety or 2.

02-28-2013 02:50 PM

you guys need to get over it. crying about rahim like my little sister does over twilight. hes an up and coming player for us and he will get better

02-28-2013 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Dude (Post 3803259)
Moore had a mediocre year after a terrible rookie season and got burned in historic fashion trying to be a hotdog, destroying Denver's best shot at the Super Bowl in more than a decade. Other than that, he had a fine season.

Stats show he missed the fewest tackles on the team and was one of the leading tacklers.

TheElusiveKyleOrton 02-28-2013 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bacchus (Post 3803327)
Stats show he missed the fewest tackles on the team and was one of the leading tacklers.

Right. That's what OD means when he says he had a "mediocre" season.

broncosteven 02-28-2013 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bacchus (Post 3803327)
Stats show he missed the fewest tackles on the team and was one of the leading tacklers.

And he was totally out of position and made a couple bad decisions on the TD.

Plus I think both he and Adams were out of position most of the game. They didn't expect Flacco to be able to sling it that far.

Your stats only show he can tackle, they say nothing about his coverage.

Give him some competiton and a chance to win/keep the job in TC. If he can't get on the field and has no depth value then talk about cutting him.

Cito Pelon 02-28-2013 03:07 PM

Elway was on the radio today for about 5 minutes and just said GM generic crap about this and every other position, just generic "we want to see what we have, we're evaluating, we want to see what happens" just the bland say-nothing you'd expect.

The only concrete thing he said was that they have not tried to get anybody to restructure, and Champ is not moving to safety.

ludo21 02-28-2013 03:07 PM

i think im leaning towards having a REALLY REALLY REALLY hard time to root for the guy.

he has got to go. (A month ago i said the opposite)

socalorado 02-28-2013 03:20 PM

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Jetmeck 02-28-2013 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bacchus (Post 3803234)
He had a great year and was one of the best tacklers on the team. Manning threw the game ending Int. Are Elway and Fox going to stand by him? Is there an article about this?


I agree 100% with this take........Manning has sucked in the playoffs and stats and win/loss percentage prove this.

Moore made great strides last year and is very young.........to somehow think he wont get btter with experience is just plain stupid.

I quarantee you this you will NEVER have to tell the kid to play back again in a situation like that.

But throwing him away is just dumb...............however that said we eed to draft another safety.


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