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Rohirrim 02-22-2013 04:00 PM

The Bicycle Guy? Really?
 
Forgive me for finding this (once again) Alice in Wonderland ****ing absurd, but the U.S. Justice Department didn't prosecute a single bankster, or a single Wall Street pirate, for the biggest ripoff in the history of mankind, and now they're marshaling their powers to go after this ****ing bicycle rider? File this under, "Are you kidding me?"

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/22/us/doj...html?hpt=hp_t1

Pony Boy 02-22-2013 07:03 PM

What's ****ing absurd is how does the U.S. Postal Service justify paying out $31 million in sponsorship fees when they are today 16 billion dollars in debt.

Dukes 02-22-2013 09:05 PM

Where in their sponsorship contract did it say "you cannot use steroids, hgh, or any other substances"? It' didn't. It will be a very interesting case.

cutthemdown 02-22-2013 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dukes (Post 3800529)
Where in their sponsorship contract did it say "you cannot use steroids, hgh, or any other substances"? It' didn't. It will be a very interesting case.

Most of those contracts contain a morals clause that could cover illegal practices etc etc.

cutthemdown 02-22-2013 10:52 PM

Funny going after him so hard while probably every single NFL player is jacked up on HGH.

Does anyone doubt that injured players take HGH to heal and come back faster? Hell Armstrong was probably riding again other cheaters as well. I don't buy that he was dirty and everyone else was clean.

Rohirrim 02-23-2013 05:56 AM

Some prosecutor going after a nice, safe target to polish up his political credentials, like when Starr went after Bubba.

02-23-2013 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim (Post 3800459)
Forgive me for finding this (once again) Alice in Wonderland ****ing absurd, but the U.S. Justice Department didn't prosecute a single bankster, or a single Wall Street pirate, for the biggest ripoff in the history of mankind, and now they marshaling their powers to go after this ****ing bicycle rider? File this under, "Are you kidding me?"

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/22/us/doj...html?hpt=hp_t1

Why not? We have over 10,000 dead annually from drunken drivers and an average of 30/year injured or killed in "mass shootings," yet they b**** about the NRA while sipping their cocktails.

02-23-2013 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown (Post 3800542)
Most of those contracts contain a morals clause that could cover illegal practices etc etc.

Ecch. Morals clause! So UNPROGRESSIVE. The Colorado House needs to be notified PRONTO.

Arkie 02-23-2013 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pony Boy (Post 3800503)
What's ****ing absurd is how does the U.S. Postal Service justify paying out $31 million in sponsorship fees when they are today 16 billion dollars in debt.

...or paying for commercials advertising a low flat shipping rate to anywhere in the country. Profits don't matter. Taxpayers have their back.

Dr. Broncenstein 02-23-2013 01:33 PM

Wealth will be redistributed. Misery will be inflicted upon Armstrong by the government. This should be cause for OP to celebrate.

baja 02-23-2013 07:24 PM

Ad you don't think the country is ℉ucked.

Where do you think all this insanity is coming from?

Pony Boy 02-23-2013 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by baja (Post 3800809)
Ad you don't think the country is ℉ucked.

Where do you think all this insanity is coming from?

No the insanity is Mexico letting the President of another country come in and sell guns to drug dealers and watch them slaughter innocent Mexican citizens.

baja 02-23-2013 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pony Boy (Post 3800819)
No the insanity is Mexico letting the President of another country come in and sell guns to drug dealers and watch them slaughter innocent Mexican citizens.

and Saddam "let" the US take over his country


Ya know what I find sad, the end game is total global domination and you guys wallow around in Nationalism.

Pony Boy 02-24-2013 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by baja (Post 3800829)
and Saddam "let" the US take over his country


Ya know what I find sad, the end game is total global domination and you guys wallow around in Nationalism.

The citizens of the U.S. will never get answers to "Fast and Furious" but The Mexican government should be camped out on Obama's doorstep until he comes clean with the answers. What would the U.S do if a foreign country came here and sold guns to our drug dealers and then they murdered our citizens?

houghtam 02-24-2013 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pony Boy (Post 3801119)
The citizens of the U.S. will never get answers to "Fast and Furious" but The Mexican government should be camped out on Obama's doorstep until he comes clean with the answers. What would the U.S do if a foreign country came here and sold guns to our drug dealers and then they murdered our citizens?

If the Mexican government were going to camp out on anyone's doorstep, it might as well have been Bush's, since it's been going on since 2006.

DenverBrit 02-24-2013 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pony Boy (Post 3801119)
The citizens of the U.S. will never get answers to "Fast and Furious" but The Mexican government should be camped out on Obama's doorstep until he comes clean with the answers. What would the U.S do if a foreign country came here and sold guns to our drug dealers and then they murdered our citizens?


While you're at it, how about closing the loopholes and shutting down corrupt gun dealers. Fast and furious, as ****ed up as it appears, is a drop in the bucket compared to domestic crime where illegal guns are damn easy for anyone to purchase The NRA represent and lobby on behalf of some of these scumbags, and the 'straw purchases' are a massive source that needs to be shut down. Although this article is dated, nothing has changed since.

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A straw purchase occurs when someone who may not legally acquire a firearm, or who wants to do so anonymously, has a companion buy it on their behalf. According to a 1994 ATF study on "Sources of Crime Guns in Southern California," many straw purchases are conducted in an openly "suggestive" manner where two people walk into a gun store, one selects a firearm, and then the other uses identification for the purchase and pays for the gun. Or, several underage people walk into a store and an adult with them makes the purchases. Both of these are illegal activities.

The next biggest source of illegal gun transactions where criminals get guns are sales made by legally licensed but corrupt at-home and commercial gun dealers. Several recent reports back up Wachtel's own studies about this, and make the case that illegal activity by those licensed to sell guns, known as Federal Firearms Licensees (FFLs), is a huge source of crime guns and greatly surpasses the sale of guns stolen from John Q. Citizen. Like bank robbers, who are interested in banks, gun traffickers are interested in FFLs because that's where the guns are. This is why FFLs are a large source of illegal guns for traffickers, who ultimately wind up selling the guns on the street.

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According to a recent ATF report, there is a significant diversion to the illegal gun market from FFLs. The report states that "of the 120,370 crime guns that were traced to purchases from the FFLs then in business, 27.7 % of these firearms were seized by law enforcement in connection with a crime within two years of the original sale. This rapid `time to crime' of a gun purchased from an FFL is a strong indicator that the initial seller or purchaser may have been engaged in unlawful activity."
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ATF officials say that only about 8% of the nation's 124,000 retail gun dealers sell the majority of handguns that are used in crimes. They conclude that these licensed retailers are part of a block of rogue entrepreneurs tempted by the big profits of gun trafficking. Cracking down on these dealers continues to be a priority for the ATF. What's needed, according to Wachtel, is better monitoring of the activities of legally licensed gun dealers. This means examining FFL paperwork to see where their guns are coming from, and making sure that those guns are being sold legally. But he says, "Let's be honest. If someone wants a gun, it's obvious the person will not have difficulty buying a gun, either legally or through the extensive United States black market."
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...ocon/guns.html


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