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Requiem 02-14-2013 12:12 PM

Analysis of Rahim Moore's Epic Fail.
 
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Mediator12 02-14-2013 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Requiem (Post 3797127)

Funny, I posted the exact same thing right after it happened... :wave:

I guess now people will believe it. And, it was a freaking Horrible playcall JDR. Horrible, horrible, and almost despicable.

Beantown Bronco 02-14-2013 12:34 PM

As bad as the playcall was, the execution was 100x worse. Simply make the tackle at the 22 yd line, where he caught the ball, and we probably STILL have a 90% chance of winning the game.

Requiem 02-14-2013 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mediator12 (Post 3797133)
Funny, I posted the exact same thing right after it happened... :wave:

I guess now people will believe it. And, it was a freaking Horrible playcall JDR. Horrible, horrible, and almost despicable.

It just put it into better perspective for me with the diagrams and such. I'm not as savvy as you, Rev and others are on the playbook. I knew you'd chime in. :)

RaiderH8r 02-14-2013 12:54 PM

The net effect is that Daydream is a turd and should be replaced.

02-14-2013 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco (Post 3797136)
As bad as the playcall was, the execution was 100x worse. Simply make the tackle at the 22 yd line, where he caught the ball, and we probably STILL have a 90% chance of winning the game.

This. Moore so poorly performed on the entire play, and this showed during the season too..

Crushaholic 02-14-2013 01:12 PM

Moore had actually been IMPROVING his play, this season. He took a bad angle on the coverage, but he should have NEVER been put in that situation. I had been saying that, from Day 1. Unless they were expecting a Ray Rice draw play, the deep ball should have been adequately covered...

maher_tyler 02-14-2013 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bmore Manning (Post 3797151)
This. Moore so poorly performed on the entire play, and this showed during the season too..

I think he played better as the season went on. Played much better than his rookie year. I think he will come back even better and more motivated. I know if I made a mistake that big I'd do everything I could to become as good of player as possible.

Beantown Bronco 02-14-2013 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Crushaholic (Post 3797152)
He took a bad angle on the coverage, but he should have NEVER been put in that situation. I had been saying that, from Day 1. Unless they were expecting a Ray Rice draw play, the deep ball should have been adequately covered...

Put in WHAT situation? To play his one and only position of safety on a deep pass?

Mediator12 02-14-2013 01:54 PM

The thing about that play is it stressed a guy who struggled with reading 4 verticals all year. That is why you call Cover 4 with umbrella principles there. As Bowen States, anything even intermediate takes up too much time and they have the ball on the 45 yard line if he throws to the TE in the seam and out route. Plus, if they keep him in bounds they lose 15 seconds before they can spike the ball as well with 2 guys going deep.

Mistake, upon mistake, upon mistake creates a disaster. And, DEN made plenty defensively all game long. I still want to forgive Moore, but that play is so freaking wrong in so many ways.

Crushaholic 02-14-2013 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco (Post 3797158)
Put in WHAT situation? To play his one and only position of safety on a deep pass?

There's no doubt that Moore failed, when covering the deep pass. I think Jack Del Rio ALSO failed, by not calling more of a prevent defense. Give them some underneath routes. Just don't let them have a quick score. I don't think Jack Del Rio gets enough criticism, for that play call...

Beantown Bronco 02-14-2013 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mediator12 (Post 3797184)
The thing about that play is it stressed a guy who struggled with reading 4 verticals all year. That is why you call Cover 4 with umbrella principles there. As Bowen States, anything even intermediate takes up too much time and they have the ball on the 45 yard line if he throws to the TE in the seam and out route. Plus, if they keep him in bounds they lose 15 seconds before they can spike the ball as well with 2 guys going deep.

This is why I'm confused. Everything you state about the intermediate routes is true, so by definition, there was nothing for Moore to read. Therefore, there was nothing to struggle with. ALL HE HAD TO DO was stay deeper than the deepest guy. That's it. The corners and LBs had all the intermediate routes covered.

Rascal 02-14-2013 02:15 PM

I always like it when my balls, already clinging for life, are mangled even further.

Mogulseeker 02-14-2013 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Crushaholic (Post 3797185)
There's no doubt that Moore failed, when covering the deep pass. I think Jack Del Rio ALSO failed, by not calling more of a prevent defense. Give them some underneath routes. Just don't let them have a quick score. I don't think Jack Del Rio gets enough criticism, for that play call...

It potentially cost him a head coaching job, so....

02-14-2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by maher_tyler (Post 3797156)
I think he played better as the season went on. Played much better than his rookie year. I think he will come back even better and more motivated. I know if I made a mistake that big I'd do everything I could to become as good of player as possible.

He did improve from his rookie season, especially in his tackling.. But his coverage left a lot to be desired. His angles and technique are really flawed. He should be a man on a mission next year. But there should be competition to push him..

KipCorrington25 02-14-2013 06:13 PM

We lost on a hail mary it's unforgivable.

enjolras 02-14-2013 10:05 PM

There was 40-something seconds left. You can't play straight up prevent defense, that's how you lose. Shannahan didn't play prevent when the superbowl was on the line.

Moore needs to do his ****ing job.

02-15-2013 12:45 AM

I am still not over this. Not even close.

02-15-2013 03:26 AM

All the pathetic losers in attendance to go after their scapegoat.

Can we get an analysis of all of the times Champ Bailey got embarrassed?

Beantown Bronco 02-15-2013 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ThirtyDegrees (Post 3797457)
All the pathetic losers in attendance to go after their scapegoat.

Can we get an analysis of all of the times Champ Bailey got embarrassed?

Why don't you create a thread about it? This isn't the place.

CEH 02-15-2013 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ThirtyDegrees (Post 3797457)
All the pathetic losers in attendance to go after their scapegoat.

Can we get an analysis of all of the times Champ Bailey got embarrassed?

Do we know for a fact that Bailiey did not expect inside help on Smith's first TD. The 2nd one was a great play by Smith but I'm not convince Bailiey wasn't expecting inside help on the 60 yard bomb.

Rohirrim 02-15-2013 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco (Post 3797188)
This is why I'm confused. Everything you state about the intermediate routes is true, so by definition, there was nothing for Moore to read. Therefore, there was nothing to struggle with. ALL HE HAD TO DO was stay deeper than the deepest guy. That's it. The corners and LBs had all the intermediate routes covered.

Yep. That was a dirt lot football situation. Stay deeper than everybody else. It ain't rocket science.

rmsanger 02-15-2013 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThirtyDegrees (Post 3797457)
All the pathetic losers in attendance to go after their scapegoat.

Can we get an analysis of all of the times Champ Bailey got embarrassed?

sofa king this.

pricejj 02-16-2013 12:20 AM

In Defense of Rahim, the trajectory on that ball was like a punt. Carter didn't jam, didn't cover, didn't pursue, and didn't tackle. Same lazy guy I saw all year.

Beantown Bronco 02-16-2013 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by pricejj (Post 3797901)
In Defense of Rahim, the trajectory on that ball was like a punt.

That's a defense? I think that makes it worse. It's one thing to get beat on a perfectly thrown bullet pass; but a high arching punt that the receiver had to stop and actually WAIT for?!? Shows just how bad he played it when he had 10 seconds to run like 20-30 yards and he effed it up.


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