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peacepipe 02-11-2013 02:18 PM

ron paul:against the U.N.,unless of course you need there help
 
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.co...in-domain-name
Quote:

Former Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), who once filed legislation to end the United States' participation in the United Nations, is now turning to the international organization for help in obtaining two domain names, the Texas Tribune reported Monday.

The former presidential candidate and congressman filed a complaint Friday with the World Intellectual Property Organization, a United Nations agency, against the owners of RonPaul.com and RonPaul.org so he could gain control of the domains, according to a blog post published on the site.

His supporters are not pleased with Paul's actions.

Shocked and angered supporters cited Paul’s move as a betrayal of the libertarian principles he has espoused. The website owners reportedly offered to sell the domain name, RonPaul.com, and the 170,000-person mailing list for $250,000 — kicking in RonPaul.org for free — saying that was the free market solution to settle the dispute.

But rather than buy the domains, Paul decided to take his grievances to the organization he railed against during his many years in Congress
Hilarious!

Blart 02-11-2013 02:31 PM

A big slap in the face to his fans.

Next thing you know, he'll want to tax colloidal silver

http://clickholistic.files.wordpress..._080731_mn.jpg

:oyvey:

peacepipe 02-11-2013 03:26 PM

Where are all the RP supporters?

Blart 02-12-2013 02:05 AM

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Blart 02-12-2013 02:06 AM

Organizations supporting Ron Paul:


The Intercollegiate Ponytail Society
Independent Recumbent Bicycle Builders Club

The Society for Creative Anachronism

Wisconsin Freegans for Gun Rights

The Autistic Olympics

Moms Against Healthcare

The National Association for the Quiet Distrust of Colored People

Public Breastfeeding Freedom League

The Libertarian Alchemist's Collective

The Jeff Goldblum Memorial Endowment for Jeff Goldblum Research

The National Federation for the Privatization of Hispanics

Bloggers for Advancing Wordcounts

The Ultimate Warrior

The Bay Area Overpass Political Graffiti Club

Lesbian Daughters of the Confederacy

Daughters of the Thermal Depolymerization Revolution

Babies for a Tax-Free America

The Powers Boothe Truther Troupe

Citizens for the Criminalization of Skateboarding

The Cat Hoarder Legal Defense Fund

The David Thorpe University of Biblical Numerology

The League of Assassins

Snake Canyon Peacekeeping

Society for the Acceptance of Public Erections

The Wesley Snipes Foundation for Ill-Advised Tax Protest

The Rush Anti-Defamation League

Uncles for Open Borders

Death Row Inmates Against School Lunches

Citizens for the Advancement of Imaginary Medical Conditions

The Society of Female Sideburns

Big Game Hunters Against the Endangered Species List

The Megaphone Nuisance League

Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants

Swamp Loggers Against Net Neutrality

Coalition to Deregulate the Age of Consent

Nevada Whoremongers Guild

Brotherhood of Lone Nut Gunmen

South Park Fans for Equivocation

The Utah White Devils Motorcycle Club

North American Man-Gold Love Association

SoCal Objectivist Boardgamers Guild

Power Bottoms for Privatized Utilities

Rockapella

Free Market Diaper Enthusiasts

The Fringe Militia Friendship Network

Citizens for an FDA-Free America

Linux Admins Online Romance Club & Sysop Speed Dating Society

The American Absurdist League

The Caucasian Bow Tie Bloc

Lolicon Brothers for Fansub Freedom

Friends of Dracula

The Free Dr. Moreau Movement

The Offshore Colony of Chiptune Creators and ASCII Artists

The Deadliest Gamers

Expatriate BitCoin Enthusiasts of Kuala Lampur

Flagstaff, Arizona Suicide Club

Avuncular Cranks of America

Moms for Legalized Whaling

The Oklahoma Morgellons Choir

Olympic Peninsula Bigfoot Hunters

Grandmothers Against Steampunk

West Coast Society of Erotic Hypnotists

Ghosts for Estate Tax Abolition

The Right-to-Die Mimes

Polyamorous Moms for Smaller Government

Escort Card Distributors of Las Vegas

The Fox Mulder Fanclub

Children of the Corn

Prog Drummers for Nonstandard Time Signatures

Dads & Grads Against Public Libraries

The Indoor Helmet League

Council on Untested Meats

The Max Rebo Band

Weezer Fans for Fish & Game Reform

Gangstalking Victims Anonymous

Lesser Baldwin Brothers of America

The Ayn Rand Crossdresser's Guild

The Gold Standard Cheese of the Month Club

The National League of Crackpots

Land Barons for Legalized Slavery

The Humboldt Secessionist Society

The Unashamed Public Dog****er Alliance

Quantum Leapers for Putting Right What Once Went Wrong

Open Carry Birthday Clowns United

The American Coalition of One-Issue Stoner Parties

UFO Believers for Challenger Disaster Research

The Yosemite Valley Condo Development Group

Supporters of Newt Gingrich, Within Reason

The Tax-Free Raccoon Exchange

The Goodyear Freedom Riders of the Sky
The D-Fens Revival Church

The Private Sector Supercollider Society

The Mid Atlantic Fedora Society
The National Network of Insufferable Guys at Your Office

Arkansas Topfree BBWs

The Northern Idaho Anti-NWO Organization

The Reptilian Awareness Trust

Teapot Dome Survivors United Against the Department of the Interior
Committee for Beard Deregulation

Citizens for WWE Truth

cutthemdown 02-12-2013 02:25 AM

Umm he has trademarked his name and shouldn't have to pay for his domain name. Then the only reason he has to go to a UN agency is because they registered it in a foriegn country and he has no choice. They have jurisdiction.

Obushma 02-12-2013 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cutthemdown (Post 3796107)
Umm he has trademarked his name and shouldn't have to pay for his domain name. Then the only reason he has to go to a UN agency is because they registered it in a foriegn country and he has no choice. They have jurisdiction.

You hit the nail on the head. What's funny is now that he's out of office, the marxists like blart are still worried what he's doing.

peacepipe 02-12-2013 08:48 AM

LOL, here are his sympathizers trying to rationalize ron Pauls' hypocrisy. Such loyalists that they ignore the fact that ron Paul is nothing more than your typical conservative politician that uses fear to rally all his tinfoil head supporters.
As stated,if ron Paul had had his way,there would be no UN to appeal to for help.

02-12-2013 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peacepipe (Post 3796133)
LOL, here are his sympathizers trying to rationalize ron Pauls' hypocrisy. Such loyalists that they ignore the fact that ron Paul is nothing more than your typical conservative politician that uses fear to rally all his tinfoil head supporters.
As stated,if ron Paul had had his way,there would be no UN to appeal to for help.

Wow, this is mindnumbingly dense logic. This would be like saying if you hate big oil or corporations, you're a hypocrite for driving a car. And god help you if you consider yourself 'green' but find yourself living on the grid. If you're not Amish, you're not trying. :)

We all have to work within the frameworks we're given. Even if we think there might be better alternatives.

Rohirrim 02-12-2013 09:35 AM

Ha! The people who believe in the power of community are Marxists, and those who believe in the law of the jungle, are the American patriots. Uhh Okay.

peacepipe 02-12-2013 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoBeavis (Post 3796135)
Wow, this is mindnumbingly dense logic. This would be like saying if you hate big oil or corporations, you're a hypocrite for driving a car. And god help you if you consider yourself 'green' but find yourself living on the grid. If you're not Amish, you're not trying. :)

We all have to work within the frameworks we're given. Even if we think there might be better alternatives.

He,as stated in the article, has a very"free market" way of dealing with this. Do you think RP is first MFer to have this happen. I don't know who's worse RP or the dumb saps that believe in him.

Blart 02-12-2013 09:54 AM

A guy writes racist newsletters, rejects math (no joke) and believes in illuminati conspiracies.

Sounds like the perfect libertarian.


If you don't like him, you must be a marxist.

02-12-2013 09:59 AM

Not sure what this has to do with anything, but...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rohirrim (Post 3796146)
Ha! The people who believe in the power of community are <s>Marxists</s> The Church, and those who believe in the law of the jungle, are <s>the American patriots</s> Atheists

We can all twist things to whatever world view we like. But for many of us, Government and Community are far from synonymous.

Rohirrim 02-12-2013 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoBeavis (Post 3796174)
Not sure what this has to do with anything, but...



We can all twist things to whatever world view we like. But for many of us, Government and Community are far from synonymous.

I know. You do it constantly.

02-12-2013 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peacepipe (Post 3796170)
He,as stated in the article, has a very"free market" way of dealing with this. Do you think RP is first MFer to have this happen. I don't know who's worse RP or the dumb saps that believe in him.

There's still some legal grey area, but for the most part, trademark law has already been ruled as binding over domain registration. They're essentially asking him to pay for what he already owns. Grabbing something that legally belongs to someone else, and then demanding they pay for it is anything but "free market" RP is looking to resolve the issue through the organization with jurisdiction over the issue. No ideology is in conflict.

But as far as the P-nuts go, RP's just reaping what he's sown over the years. :)

02-12-2013 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rohirrim (Post 3796180)
I know. You do it constantly.

We all do. Some just realize it more than others. :)

Obushma 02-12-2013 10:25 AM

Its easy to understand when you look at the law, it doesnt mean Ron Paul has gone to the United Nations.

http://youtu.be/fAwgSWzQFwQ


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Blart 02-12-2013 11:03 AM

Perhaps you can explain some of Ron Paul's other hypocrisies.

Why did spending in his county quadruple from 1999 to 2009? Why does spending in his district top the average per capita federal spending in 46 of the 50 states?

In 2010, when the Tea Party congress voluntarily decided to stop using earmarks, why was Ron Paul one of only 4 GOP congressmen to continue using them?

Why does he specify which contractor will get the earmark money? Why not use a more free-market solution, and let contractors bid on the job?

Why did he increase public transit spending in his own district (to the tune of $750,000) but claims to be against public transportation?

Why is he against FEMA, but demanded FEMA housing for those displaced by hurricanes in his own district?

Why did he critcise Tip O'Neill for riding around in an expensive government Lincoln Towncar, yet ended up crusing around in one himself?

Also - why did he call MLK one of his "heroes" in a recent speech, yet published a newsletter claiming MLK was a gay marxist pedophile?

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...-spending-pork

cutthemdown 02-12-2013 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blart (Post 3796211)
Perhaps you can explain some of Ron Paul's other hypocrisies.

Why did spending in his county quadruple from 1999 to 2009? Why does spending in his district top the average per capita federal spending in 46 of the 50 states?

In 2010, when the Tea Party congress voluntarily decided to stop using earmarks, why was Ron Paul one of only 4 GOP congressmen to continue using them?

Why does he specify which contractor will get the earmark money? Why not use a more free-market solution, and let contractors bid on the job?

Why did he increase public transit spending in his own district (to the tune of $750,000) but claims to be against public transportation?

Why is he against FEMA, but demanded FEMA housing for those displaced by hurricanes in his own district?

Why did he critcise Tip O'Neill for riding around in an expensive government Lincoln Towncar, yet ended up crusing around in one himself?

Also - why did he call MLK one of his "heroes" in a recent speech, yet published a newsletter claiming MLK was a gay marxist pedophile?

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...-spending-pork

I'm not a Ron Paul supporter and really don't know a lot about him other then he is the libertarian poster politician. But sticking to the issue he has no choice but to use the governing body that out govt has given jurisdiction to. It would be like saying if you think your local school board should be disbanded and everyone gets money for private school vouchers, that you think are a hypocrit if you send you kid to public school when thats all govt helps you with. You can be against FEMA even and still request money from them when your area needs it. You are stuck working with the machines the govt sets up. You can say i don't like it, try and change it, but often you are stuck with it.

Blart 02-12-2013 12:40 PM

"Working within the system" could explain a lot. A libertarian has to use public roads. A marxist has to sell his books.

But it does not explain quadrupling spending to $4 billion, cronyism, pork-barrel spending, fancy taxpayer cars, or any of the above.

TonyR 02-12-2013 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peacepipe (Post 3795961)
Where are all the RP supporters?

Remember when the "Tea Party" was going to be the next, big thing?!?

Tombstone RJ 02-12-2013 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peacepipe (Post 3795961)
Where are all the RP supporters?

Right here. Going to the UN for the rights to a domain name is no big deal. Symbolically it ticks of many of RP's supporters I don't really care. He's just trying to get the rights to a domain name without haveing to pay through the nose for it.

As you well know, many domain names are started buy people who have no intention of ever using the name, they just want, more or less, to be able to extort money from someone on down the road. "oh, you want this domain name, pay me $$$ and it's yours."

If I was RP, I wouldn't have gone this direction. I would have either negotiated a reasonable price or just let it go.

peacepipe 02-12-2013 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 3796323)
Right here. Going to the UN for the rights to a domain name is no big deal. Symbolically it ticks of many of RP's supporters I don't really care. He's just trying to get the rights to a domain name without haveing to pay through the nose for it.

As you well know, many domain names are started buy people who have no intention of ever using the name, they just want, more or less, to be able to extort money from someone on down the road. "oh, you want this domain name, pay me $$$ and it's yours."

If I was RP, I wouldn't have gone this direction. I would have either negotiated a reasonable price or just let it go.

It is not extortion,it is our great free market system. You can't praise a free market system,then throw a tantrum when it doesn't work in your favor.

Tombstone RJ 02-12-2013 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peacepipe (Post 3796380)
It is not extortion,it is our great free market system. You can't praise a free market system,then throw a tantrum when it doesn't work in your favor.

agreed, free market is not always fair. But you wouldn't understand.


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