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cutthemdown 01-30-2013 08:13 AM

We may be in another recession already.
 
last quarter the economy shrunk just like some people were saying. Of course liberals tried to tell us this is a recovery. But now if we shrink again this quarter it will be officially another recession. Good job Obama!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...in-3-12-years/

cutthemdown 01-30-2013 08:37 AM

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...039517142.html

U.S. economic momentum screeched to a halt in the final months of 2012, as lawmakers' struggle to reach a deal on tax increases and budget cuts likely led businesses to pare inventories and the government to cut spending.

Obama's recovery in shambles!

Requiem 01-30-2013 08:41 AM

When defense spending is contracted at ~ 22% -- this is going to happen. All other reports are showing that the signs elsewhere are encouraging. Try reading more than just a headline from FOXNEWS.

That One Guy 01-30-2013 08:54 AM

The economy IS what it is when you're not dumping money into it to make it work better. Maybe rather than a recession, we're just in what the economy will be in the future.

Rohirrim 01-30-2013 09:23 AM

The overwhelming majority haven't had a "recovery" anyway, so it doesn't really matter to them. Just more of the same.

As for this recession, Tim Noah puts it beautifully: This recovery has been a luxury item. For the bottom 99%, real income growth over the first two years of the recovery was one-fifth of one percent. The richest percentile saw its income rebound by 11.6%. It is only slightly sensational to point out that the 1%'s income has outgained the rest of the economy by a factor of 58 in the recovery.
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...-the-1/253990/

cutthemdown 01-30-2013 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Requiem (Post 3790573)
When defense spending is contracted at ~ 22% -- this is going to happen. All other reports are showing that the signs elsewhere are encouraging. Try reading more than just a headline from FOXNEWS.

nope Obama only adding low paying jobs houshold income way down. Hopefully it gets better but Obama has no plans. Its all spend more on healthcare, cut defense but still fight huge wars, gun control, now immigration that will make Obamacare even more expensive.

When will he do the one thing we really need to do. Address how to get more revenue from the corporate money stored overseas. We have to cut drastically the worldwide tax rate but then also make a law that forces them to return at least 50% of the profits made overseas to the American banking system.

But you cant make them pay 35%. They already pay up to 50% and even more in other countries to set up shop. Our oil companies pay through the ass which is why they offshore those profits in other countries. Then you see how they did that and scream holy cow they made 5 billion in africa and didn't pay any tax. But the truth is that paid 5 billion in tax and costs to do it. Now you want them to give another 35%, it doesn't make sense. Drop it, make them bring half of it home or some other reasonable %, and tax it at about 10% max. Govt would make a lot of revenue on something like that. But obama never saw a tax he didn't want to raise. he doesn't care about the economy as much as he does changing govt into his view. Healthcare, immigration,. gun control, all the big liberal ideals of big govt taking care of us.

That One Guy 01-30-2013 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown (Post 3790609)
nope Obama only adding low paying jobs houshold income way down. Hopefully it gets better but Obama has no plans. Its all spend more on healthcare, cut defense but still fight huge wars, gun control, now immigration that will make Obamacare even more expensive.

When will he do the one thing we really need to do. Address how to get more revenue from the corporate money stored overseas. We have to cut drastically the worldwide tax rate but then also make a law that forces them to return at least 50% of the profits made overseas to the American banking system.

But you cant make them pay 35%. They already pay up to 50% and even more in other countries to set up shop. Our oil companies pay through the ass which is why they offshore those profits in other countries. Then you see how they did that and scream holy cow they made 5 billion in africa and didn't pay any tax. But the truth is that paid 5 billion in tax and costs to do it. Now you want them to give another 35%, it doesn't make sense. Drop it, make them bring half of it home or some other reasonable %, and tax it at about 10% max. Govt would make a lot of revenue on something like that. But obama never saw a tax he didn't want to raise. he doesn't care about the economy as much as he does changing govt into his view. Healthcare, immigration,. gun control, all the big liberal ideals of big govt taking care of us.

But we managed to overcome the true threat to society and our way of life - Gays are now allowed in the military.

cutthemdown 01-30-2013 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by That One Guy (Post 3790653)
But we managed to overcome the true threat to society and our way of life - Gays are now allowed in the military.

If Clinton was the its the conomy stupid, Obama is the it's everything but the economy stupid.

Rohirrim 01-30-2013 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown (Post 3790664)
If Clinton was the its the conomy stupid, Obama is the it's everything but the economy stupid.

And the right wing crazies in Congress who simply want to stick their heads into the sand if they can't take our economics back to the 1890s have no blame in the matter? Man, you guys really do live in an echo chamber.

Rohirrim 01-30-2013 11:27 AM

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That One Guy 01-30-2013 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim (Post 3790678)
And the right wing crazies in Congress who simply want to stick their heads into the sand if they can't take our economics back to the 1890s have no blame in the matter? Man, you guys really do live in an echo chamber.

The government's job isn't to create an economy - merely to make conditions in which one can thrive. Sorry, until someone presents an idea which stops all our jobs from going overseas, they're just pissing up a rope.

In reality, the current idea of take from the rich to give to the poor is a roundabout method of the trickle down theory that all yous folks seem to despise. You still end up with the big guys holding the money while the guys on bottom cross their fingers and hope the big guys will decide to create jobs. If the big guy instead says, "look at all the profit" and pockets it, we're right back the next year trying to take from the rich guy again.

cutthemdown 01-30-2013 04:19 PM

Listening to dems blame a hurricane for the economy going into a recession is pretty amusing don't you all think? Try having jets slammed into the most important financial city in the country and see what it does for your plans. We will be wishing for Bush JR back soon enough. Obama's economy is going to tank.

cutthemdown 01-30-2013 04:23 PM

Also the govts revenue dropping so much they are forced to cut our security defense spending is also their fault. They have created an environment hostile to big and small businesses alike and now not enough people working to fund the budget like it should be.

cutthemdown 01-30-2013 04:25 PM

So during the whole last 4 months of the election Obama lying again. He said things looking up blah blah. Romney was saying no we are heading into more contraction with your policies! Now it turns out the media just helps report everything is ok when in fact right now as we speak we are as bad off as we ever were.

Arkie 01-30-2013 04:46 PM

It was an unexpected surprise for Wall Street. ::)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21261323

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The fourth-quarter shrinkage in economic output comes as a shock to analysts on Wall Street, who had been expecting 1.1% growth according to a poll by news agency Reuters. Not one economist surveyed had predicted an economic contraction.

El Minion 01-30-2013 05:42 PM

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El Minion 01-30-2013 05:55 PM

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cutthemdown 01-30-2013 06:22 PM

El Minion you don't think Obamas policies could have anything to do with a slow recovery? Bury your head in the sand much? But I blame Obama for that because he has you fooled. :)

lonestar 01-31-2013 12:18 AM

Looks like el noopinion has become the new cartoon boi apologist for nobama..

Typical. A serious subject is broached and all he has is cartoons.

The true mindset of the far looney left.

lonestar 01-31-2013 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown (Post 3790866)
El Minion you don't think Obamas policies could have anything to do with a slow recovery? Bury your head in the sand much? But I blame Obama for that because he has you fooled. :)

I suspect the trillions he spent trying to stimulate the economy has not kicked in yet.

Just heard that 70% think the moron is doing a good job.

Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice and I'm a looney leftist liberal.

Rohirrim 01-31-2013 03:56 AM

If you think the economy is bad now, wait until the idiot rightards in charge of the Troglodyte Party impose their austerity measures on the rest of the country. Much of the downturn now is caused by the anticipation of their stupidity, but they don't care. Like the Islamic fascists, they believe that the best path is always backwards. Ha!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2584742.html

peacepipe 01-31-2013 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown (Post 3790866)
El Minion you don't think Obamas policies could have anything to do with a slow recovery? Bury your head in the sand much? But I blame Obama for that because he has you fooled. :)

Yeah,he should've done a bigger stimulus.

01-31-2013 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cutthemdown (Post 3790816)
Listening to dems blame a hurricane for the economy going into a recession is pretty amusing don't you all think? Try having jets slammed into the most important financial city in the country and see what it does for your plans. We will be wishing for Bush JR back soon enough. Obama's economy is going to tank.

http://reason.com/blog/2012/10/29/3r...-to-government

Great thing is they never blame fluctuations in govt spending when the numbers are good. That's only useful as an excuse for failure.


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