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01-28-2013 08:47 PM

County Sheriffs Position Paper on Gun Control
 
Eat it, libs.

Pony Boy 01-29-2013 08:22 PM

The Second Amendment separates us from all other countries.

W*GS 01-29-2013 08:38 PM

Sheriffs are obligated to uphold the law. They do not have the power to refuse to enforce the law.

W*GS 01-29-2013 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pony Boy (Post 3790433)
The Second Amendment separates us from all other countries.

So does our irresponsibility with guns.

ant1999e 01-29-2013 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by W*GS (Post 3790435)
Sheriffs are obligated to uphold the law. They do not have the power to refuse to enforce the law.

Immigration...

Dukes 01-29-2013 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W*GS (Post 3790435)
Sheriffs are obligated to uphold the law. They do not have the power to refuse to enforce the law.

An unconstitutional law is not a law. It's pretty simple.

myMind 01-29-2013 10:35 PM

I still dont understand why you gun nuts think the government is going to try and keep you from owning a gun. I really dont give a **** if you own a handgun, hunting rifle, or shotgun. Neither do they. A ban on civilians owning assault weapons of any kind and making the registration proccess to own normal firearms more stringent is not an attack on our constitutional rights. You can still own guns people, calm down.

...and as to the second ammendment, I also don't understand how one compound sentence, written hundreds of years ago by people who had to fight a war in their own backyard is treated like some god given right akin to drawing breathe. The world we live in now is so different. Here is a fun fact, it was suggested by our founding father Thomas Jefferson that the constitution be rewritten every 19 years, so that the dead could not rule the living.

"His argument was that if Americans weren't vital stakeholders in that foundational document, they would become distanced from governance itself," Phillips explains.
"And the politicians from the president on down would become 'like wolves.' "

http://www.npr.org/2011/12/10/143354...-to-rewrite-it

lonestar 01-30-2013 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk (Post 3790037)

A well written paper sating the absolute turth, that the liberal far left do not want to face.

Smaller government (less power) is abhorrent to them and are using tragedies to promote BIG BROTHER. All the while those in the know of the facts are feeling them they are wrong.

lonestar 01-30-2013 12:06 AM

A thought on the gun ban law

 



A person steals guns, (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW),

shoots and kills his own mother (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW) ,

transports these guns loaded (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW),

brings guns onto school property (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW),

breaks into the school (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW),

discharges the weapons within city (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW),

murders 26 people , (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW)

and commits suicide (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW).


 

And there are people in this country that somehow think passing ANOTHER LAW banning guns would protect us from someone like this.

 


If you haven't noticed, people like this are not concerned about breaking laws - they only care about fulfilling their own twisted agenda.


 

The only people that a gun ban law would impact are the LAW ABIDING CITIZENS, which will only serve to cripple the ability to protect Overselves.

myMind 01-30-2013 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by lonestar (Post 3790473)
A well written paper sating the absolute turth, that the liberal far left do not want to face.

Smaller government (less power) is abhorrent to them and are using tragedies to promote BIG BROTHER. All the while those in the know of the facts are feeling them they are wrong.

You should stop posting while drunk and or in a fugue state due to your old man alzheimers. Your grammar is horrendous and it makes you come across as an ignorant hick...which I'm sure you are. I took you off of ignore just long enough to read and reaffirm my opinion of your opinions. Well...bye.

BroncoInferno 01-30-2013 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dukes (Post 3790446)
An unconstitutional law is not a law. It's pretty simple.

There is a fine line between "simple" and "simplistic." How to interpret the 2nd Amendment is not nearly as cut and dry as the gun nuts wish it were.

Bottom line: it's the job of the courts to interpret the constitution, not some random county sheriff.

Requiem 01-30-2013 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by myMind (Post 3790475)
You should stop posting while drunk and or in a fugue state due to your old man alzheimers. Your grammar is horrendous and it makes you come across as an ignorant hick...which I'm sure you are. I took you off of ignore just long enough to read and reaffirm my opinion of your opinions. Well...bye.

Omfg. Hilarious!

DenverBrit 01-30-2013 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Pony Boy (Post 3790433)
The Second Amendment separates us from all other countries.

It sure does.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...D-UN-data3.jpg

ant1999e 01-30-2013 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by myMind (Post 3790475)
You should stop posting while drunk and or in a fugue state due to your old man alzheimers. Your grammar is horrendous and it makes you come across as an ignorant hick...which I'm sure you are. I took you off of ignore just long enough to read and reaffirm my opinion of your opinions. Well...bye.

Glad you add so much to the conversation. ****ing idiot.

Requiem 01-30-2013 08:45 AM

Don't act like you do, antsies.

That One Guy 01-30-2013 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverBrit (Post 3790515)

LOL

Tell me they didn't exclude Mexico just because it'd ruin their stats.

Also, how does Estonia and Slovakia make it into the developed world stats when I don't see Brazil and some of the other countries that are routinely mentioned as rough places.

myMind 01-30-2013 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ant1999e (Post 3790558)
Glad you add so much to the conversation. ****ing idiot.

See post number seven.

DenverBrit 01-30-2013 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by That One Guy (Post 3790586)
LOL

Tell me they didn't exclude Mexico just because it'd ruin their stats.

Also, how does Estonia and Slovakia make it into the developed world stats when I don't see Brazil and some of the other countries that are routinely mentioned as rough places.

Ruin the stats?? Hilarious!

Mexico and Brazil are NICs, (newly industrialized country) somewhere between a third and first world country. That's why they are not included, neither were China or India for the same reason.

How does that effect the US gun murder rate??

It is by far the worst industrialized country, no other comes close, and is topped only by mostly war zones and lawless countries. Gun ownership may not be the sole cause, but arming every idiot, wacko, gang banger and terrorist in the country is.

But, USA, USA, we're number 1. (grunt for full effect) Better?? :)

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Interna...x360_wmain.jpg

TonyR 01-30-2013 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverBrit (Post 3790621)
Ruin the stats?? Hilarious!

Right?!? And even if Mexico were included, and their number was higher, would that somehow make our high number okay? "We're bad, but at least we're not as bad as Mexico!"

TonyR 01-30-2013 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by myMind (Post 3790466)
I still dont understand why you gun nuts think the government is going to try and keep you from owning a gun. I really dont give a **** if you own a handgun, hunting rifle, or shotgun. Neither do they. A ban on civilians owning assault weapons of any kind and making the registration proccess to own normal firearms more stringent is not an attack on our constitutional rights. You can still own guns people, calm down.

These people desperately need someone/something to be mad at, to be scared of, to blame. And you can't change anything. Progress is not allowed, and any attempt to fix something is a threat to their very way of life. So much easier for them to have good guys and bad guys, black and white.

That One Guy 01-30-2013 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DenverBrit (Post 3790621)
Ruin the stats?? Hilarious!

Mexico and Brazil are NICs, (newly industrialized country) somewhere between a third and first world country. That's why they are not included, neither were China or India for the same reason.

How does that effect the US gun murder rate??

It is by far the worst industrialized country, no other comes close, and is topped only by mostly war zones and lawless countries. Gun ownership may not be the sole cause, but arming every idiot, wacko, gang banger and terrorist in the country is.

But, USA, USA, we're number 1. (grunt for full effect) Better?? :)

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Interna...x360_wmain.jpg

Ruin the effect, I guess, might be a better way to put it.

That One Guy 01-30-2013 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyR (Post 3790642)
These people desperately need someone/something to be mad at, to be scared of, to blame.

LOL

The irony. This is exactly the thing driving the gun control measures.

Rohirrim 01-30-2013 11:28 AM

Thanks for your two cents, Rosco P. Coltrane.

TonyR 01-30-2013 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by That One Guy (Post 3790650)
This is exactly the thing driving the gun control measures.

Oh? So on the one hand we have gun control measures which are perfectly reasonable, whereas on the other hand we have a fear that these controls will take away both one's guns and one's rights, which is not reasonable.

The idea of gun control measures is based on the obvious factual evidence showing that guns are misused for violence in this country, that guns are too easily accessed, and that there is no good use for certain types of guns. Somehow this common sense is then taken as the evil government trying to create a totalitarian police state.

Yes, exactly the same...

Dukes 01-30-2013 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myMind (Post 3790466)
I still dont understand why you gun nuts think the government is going to try and keep you from owning a gun. I really dont give a **** if you own a handgun, hunting rifle, or shotgun. Neither do they. A ban on civilians owning assault weapons of any kind and making the registration proccess to own normal firearms more stringent is not an attack on our constitutional rights. You can still own guns people, calm down.

Yeah, they don't want to confiscate guns. You're right.

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