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peacepipe 01-14-2013 08:26 AM

GOP pollster: americans don't care about the size of gov.
 
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.co...e-what?ref=fpb

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Renowned Republican pollster Frank Luntz on Monday had a brutally honest take on the GOP's central platform plank.

Luntz said the party's focus on the size of the federal government, rather than its overall effectiveness and efficiency, makes for a poor message.

“The American people don’t care what the size of government is,” Luntz said during an appearance on "Fox & Friends." "They do care what types of services government gives and, quite frankly, how much government takes.”

It's the second time in a month that Luntz has aimed public criticism at the right, with the messaging guru arguing in late-December that the National Rifle Association was out of step with the American public.
Nothing is going the gops' way.

Rohirrim 01-15-2013 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by peacepipe (Post 3780997)

Which changes nothing. They can, and will, block anything that doesn't fit their reactionary ideology. The country is being held hostage. As long as it is, we will remain in this recession.

peacepipe 01-15-2013 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim (Post 3782233)
Which changes nothing. They can, and will, block anything that doesn't fit their reactionary ideology. The country is being held hostage. As long as it is, we will remain in this recession.

For the time being,but long-term the gop is just destroying itself. They are going to go the way of the whigs,if they don't adjust to certain realities.

Arkie 01-15-2013 12:11 PM

"They do care what types of services government gives and, quite frankly, how much government takes.”

That's obvious. Do they not understand that bigger government takes more?

DenverBrit 01-15-2013 02:02 PM

In the age of technology, government should be more efficient and smaller.

But no, we have something that still looks like this...............

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W*GS 01-15-2013 02:35 PM

I'm always arguing with the Norquist acolytes that we should want good government, not cheap government. They conflate the two.

peacepipe 01-15-2013 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Arkie (Post 3782320)
"They do care what types of services government gives and, quite frankly, how much government takes.”

That's obvious. Do they not understand that bigger government takes more?

You're obviously in the minority.

Rohirrim 01-15-2013 07:50 PM

The joke is on the GOP dummies. Had Gore been elected, the government would have been streamlined and reduced considerably, something he was very successful with under Clinton. Instead, they cheated to put the all-hat-no-cattle cowboy in the WH and he went on a drunken binge. They have nobody but themselves to blame.

Arkie 01-16-2013 11:01 AM

The joke is on the people. The formula for success in Washington is to make promises to the people, but keep promises to the lobbyists. Otherwise, you can't get to the top and stay there. Gore wouldn't have been any different from the other "choices" we've had this millennium: Gore, Bush, Kerry, McCain, and Romney. That's all we've had to choose from. Do you trust any of them?

peacepipe 01-16-2013 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Arkie (Post 3783002)
The joke is on the people. The formula for success in Washington is to make promises to the people, but keep promises to the lobbyists. Otherwise, you can't get to the top and stay there. Gore wouldn't have been any different from the other "choices" we've had this millennium: Gore, Bush, Kerry, McCain, and Romney. That's all we've had to choose from. Do you trust any of them?

So since your side of the political spectrum can't put a trustworthy candidate,you want to lump all gore with them.

Arkie 01-16-2013 03:40 PM

You're too gullible if you don't see that it's both sides. Yes, Gore and Kerry aren't trustworthy either. I can't believe I forgot about Obama. Can't leave him out.


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