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Rohirrim 01-07-2013 03:45 PM

Corporations and Carpool Lanes
 
When Jonathan Frieman of San Rafael, Calif., was pulled over for driving alone in the carpool lane, he argued to the officer that, actually, he did have a passenger.

He waved his corporation papers at the officer, he told NBCBayArea.com, saying that corporations are people under California law.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...on-papers?lite

cutthemdown 01-07-2013 04:08 PM

He will lose and have to pay the fine.

Rohirrim 01-08-2013 02:16 AM

The SCOTUS has ruled that corporations are persons. So are they, or not?

cutthemdown 01-08-2013 03:33 AM

They are persons for certain applications of law but I work in this field. Not saying i am an atty i am not but i can tell you a judge will simply make him pay the fine and any appeal his files he will lose. He could even get in trouble if he wastes too much of the courts times.

Obviously corp papers are only the documents of a corporation not the corporation itself. Its a funny story I agree but it has no legs and is obviously a stupid waste of the courts time.

Rohirrim 01-08-2013 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cutthemdown (Post 3774089)
They are persons for certain applications of law but I work in this field. Not saying i am an atty i am not but i can tell you a judge will simply make him pay the fine and any appeal his files he will lose. He could even get in trouble if he wastes too much of the courts times.

Obviously corp papers are only the documents of a corporation not the corporation itself. Its a funny story I agree but it has no legs and is obviously a stupid waste of the courts time.

Actually, a corporation is only a box of papers. That's why they exist - to serve as a buffer against responsibility.

Doggcow 01-08-2013 11:31 AM

I really think the Carpool violation fine should be something like $10,000. Something insane.

It pisses me off watching the cheaters when I'm stuck in traffic. The fine just isn't detrimental enough (and it's not a moving violation on your record) for people that make decent money not to exploit it.

Or allow PAY-PER-Carpool, type lanes. We have a few in WA, actually.

I also don't think Mom's should be allowed to use their 2 year old as "Carpool relevant occupants". It should ONLY be people with a Drivers License (Or old enough to have one). It's not like that 2 year old urgently needs to get anywhere.

cutthemdown 01-08-2013 01:59 PM

Sorry rho the papers only represent the people who make up the ownership of the corporation, the officers, the bylaws etc etc. Good try though I agree funny story.

Bronco Yoda 01-08-2013 04:42 PM

Were those papers belted in?

chadta 01-08-2013 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doggcow (Post 3774265)
I really think the Carpool violation fine should be something like $10,000. Something insane.

It pisses me off watching the cheaters when I'm stuck in traffic. The fine just isn't detrimental enough (and it's not a moving violation on your record) for people that make decent money not to exploit it.

Or allow PAY-PER-Carpool, type lanes. We have a few in WA, actually.

I also don't think Mom's should be allowed to use their 2 year old as "Carpool relevant occupants". It should ONLY be people with a Drivers License (Or old enough to have one). It's not like that 2 year old urgently needs to get anywhere.


What about letting anybody in a company vehicle, you know somebody who is contributing to society actually use them, or heres a novel idea, get rid of them, they are a failed social engineering experiment, make 2 lanes that everybody could use in the space of the 1 car pool lane and get everybody to where they have to be a little faster.

what about motorcycles ? up here they cant use them, which makes no sense to me, if 2 out of 4 or 6 seats in a car can use them ( 33-50% ) why cant a bike which may be 100% full or at least 50%.

But at the same time, green cars can, so hybrids can, im still waiting for the company to come out with hybrid stickers for all cars to cheat.


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