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TonyR 01-06-2013 01:31 PM

Andrews contradicts Shanahan on RGIII injury
 
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When Washington Redskins rookie quarterback Robert Griffin III injured his knee on a gruesome collision in the fourth quarter of a 31-28 victory against the Baltimore Ravens on Dec. 9, he limped off the field for one play, then hobbled back into the huddle as fans and teammates held their breath.

Griffin, clearly injured and in pain, remained in the game for four plays before removing himself.

The following day, when the team revealed Griffin had suffered a sprained lateral collateral ligament, coach Mike Shanahan was asked why he had risked the health of his franchise quarterback by putting him back into the game.

Shanahan said he let Griffin return with the blessing of James Andrews, the renowned orthopedic surgeon, who was on the sideline.

Andrews, however, told USA TODAY Sports on Saturday that he never cleared Griffin to go back into the game, because he never even examined him.

"(Griffin) didn't even let us look at him," Andrews said. "He came off the field, walked through the sidelines, circled back through the players and took off back to the field. It wasn't our opinion."

"We didn't even get to touch him or talk to him. Scared the hell out of me."

Yet when asked by news reporters, Shanahan described a conversation with Andrews this way:

"He's on the sidelines with Dr. Andrews. He had a chance to look at him and he said he could go back in," Shanahan said Dec. 10. "(I said) 'Hey, Dr. Andrews, can Robert go back in?'

'Yeah, he can go back in.'

'Robert, go back in.'

"That was it," Shanahan said.

Only that's not the way it happened, Andrews said. What's more, Andrews remains worried about Griffin's health as the Redskins play the Seattle Seahawks in an NFC wild-card game at FedEx Field today.

"I'm the one that shut him down that day, finally," Andrews said. "I've been a nervous wreck letting him come back as quick as he has. He's doing a lot better this week, but he's still recovering and I'm holding my breath because of it."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...njury/1811689/

SoCalBronco 01-06-2013 01:33 PM

Interesting to see he didn't say anything for four weeks and waited until a playoff game to make an allegation. Someone is going to lose a client....fast.

RhymesayersDU 01-06-2013 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco (Post 3772357)
Interesting to see he didn't say anything for four weeks and waited until a playoff game to make an allegation. Someone is going to lose a client....fast.

Not sure who is going to lose who in your scenario. Athletes need Dr. Andrews more than he needs them.

SoCalBronco 01-06-2013 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RhymesayersDU (Post 3772361)
Not sure who is going to lose who in your scenario. Athletes need Dr. Andrews more than he needs them.

No one needs someone who waits four weeks to make an allegation about something he is supposedly concerned about. Tony's article also omits admissions the doctor made about how Griffin has passed the tests etc. it cuts off the quote.

I'd be shocked if Washingon ever used Andrews again.

RhymesayersDU 01-06-2013 01:49 PM

That's pretty shortsighted. They're not going to risk RGIII's health over this.

I'm not saying there aren't other great doctors in this country, but everybody goes to Dr. Andrews for a reason.

BroncoMan4ever 01-06-2013 02:09 PM

Doesn't Mike have a history of antics like this?

bpc 01-06-2013 02:10 PM

It appears some have an axe to grind against Shanahan. Pretty sure if RG3 couldn't play, and Shanny was told RG3 couldn't play, he wouldn't have played. TD sat out a quarter in the super bowl for the very same reason.

Speaking of shanny, they skins are rolling the Seabags, 14-0 in the 1st quarter. Your distraction didn't work Andrew.

mhgaffney 01-06-2013 02:14 PM

You can clearly see that Griffin is playing hurt.

He has just thrown two TDs - the kid is sensational -- and Washington leads.

He's already taken some big hits. Will they carry him off the field?

01-06-2013 02:26 PM

Wasn't Shanahan fined recently for downplaying a players injury? If Shanahan actually did lie and say a player was cleared by a doctor when he wasn't he will probably get fined again. But as long as they win I doubt there really be much fallout from it. Though if I was the doctor don't think I'd want to keep working with the red skins if they are going to throw him under the bus making claims he cleared someone when he didn't

01-06-2013 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco (Post 3772368)

I'd be shocked if Washingon ever used Andrews again.

He was checking him out in the ice fishing box. I'm sure you mean after this year.

SoCalBronco 01-06-2013 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55 (Post 3772461)
He was checking him out in the ice fishing box. I'm sure you mean after this year.

I sure he will be taken care of after this game...

RhymesayersDU 01-06-2013 02:45 PM

LOL, not sure what you're beef with Andrews is, but this is completely irrational.

Is this a Shanahan thing?

TonyR 01-06-2013 02:48 PM

Just saw someone posted about this earlier today in the Wildcard Sunday thread:

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpos...80&postcount=2

LongDongJohnson 01-06-2013 03:03 PM

Time to dust off shanahans old lie detector and see whos the one thats really making up stories.

Lestat 01-06-2013 03:52 PM

please, no one is ego driven enough to steer a athlete away from the best surgeon in the field just because his story differs.
you would have to be a complete moron to do something like that.

DomCasual 01-06-2013 04:09 PM

Wow. He just bent his leg in a way that wasn't natural.

01-06-2013 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DomCasual (Post 3772694)
Wow. He just bent his leg in a way that wasn't natural.

He's been cleared by Dr Andrews. He said that he had passed their tests and so he's back out there.

Man-Goblin 01-06-2013 04:10 PM

And RGIII is now inevitably writhing in pain on the ground.

What the hell is Andrews supposed to say? He's one of the best sports medicine doctors in the world. You think he'd want his name attached to clearing Griffin if he were to go out there and get hurt?

Shanahan is a great coach. But honest when it comes to injury situations he is not.

bombay 01-06-2013 04:15 PM

Shanahan should be fired for what he just did to that kid. And his team.

01-06-2013 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bombay (Post 3772723)
Shanahan should be fired for what he just did to that kid. And his team.

He has been subsequently cleared by Andrews. This isn't on Shanahan.

DomCasual 01-06-2013 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bombay (Post 3772723)
Shanahan should be fired for what he just did to that kid. And his team.

Yeah, that was tough to watch. I hope the kid is okay.

01-06-2013 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeSe7en (Post 3772733)
He has been subsequently cleared by Andrews. This isn't on Shanahan.

The game in question was from earlier in December correct? For that game I'd say if what the dr said is accurate then Shanny was wrong to say he'd been cleared, but today's game he's been cleared. I can't help but think that's why the article got released so the dr could not only clear himself of liability but prevent a recurrence of anyone other than him clearing a player or making claims he did

01-06-2013 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by broncofever (Post 3772757)
The game in question was from earlier in December correct? For that game I'd say if what the dr said is accurate then Shanny was wrong to say he'd been cleared, but today's game he's been cleared. I can't help but think that's why the article got released so the dr could not only clear himself of liability but prevent a recurrence of anyone other than him clearing a player or making claims he did

Correct. The doctor was referring to a previous game. And in that same article he has said that, subsequently, RGIII passed their tests, so he cleared him.

You have to really spell this out for people here. The reading comprehension is so bad.

DomCasual 01-06-2013 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeSe7en (Post 3772775)
Correct. The doctor was referring to a previous game. And in that same article he has said that, subsequently, RGIII passed their tests, so he cleared him.

You have to really spell this out for people here. The reading comprehension is so bad.

Are you even watching the game right now? You don't have to be James Andrews to know that the kid is hurt.

ant1999e 01-06-2013 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bpc (Post 3772419)
It appears some have an axe to grind against Shanahan. Pretty sure if RG3 couldn't play, and Shanny was told RG3 couldn't play, he wouldn't have played. TD sat out a quarter in the super bowl for the very same reason.

Speaking of shanny, they skins are rolling the Seabags, 14-0 in the 1st quarter. Your distraction didn't work Andrew.

Hmmm:laugh:


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