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Kaylore 12-24-2012 09:55 AM

Elvis Dumervil has 11 sacks
 
He is ranked 8th in the nfl. That puts him ahead of the following guys:

Mario Williams
Charles Johnson
Jared Allen
Anthony Spencer
Justin Houston
Shaun Phillips
Tamba Hali
Chris Long
Robert Mathis

He also has six forced fumbles. He had a good game yesterday. Wanted to give him som props. Miller has become a super star, but Dumervil is still balling.

Archer81 12-24-2012 09:56 AM

Must make it hard for him to walk.

HEYO!

Seriously though, good game for Doom and Von yesterday.

:Broncos:

Jekyll15Hyde 12-24-2012 10:00 AM

I had to say that I was shocked at this number when I heard it last night. It is a very quiet 11 sacks. Of course that has a little something to do with Von

ZONA 12-24-2012 10:07 AM

Doom has been good, not special but good. He has improved his run defense but not enough. If you're on the team primarily because you're a "sack specialist" then you probably better have something like 14-16 sacks on the season. Don't think his play deserved a praise thread though. He hasn't been that good.

TheReverend 12-24-2012 10:09 AM

Still a top 10 pass rusher in he league and one of the best DEs in the bizzzzz. His run stopping woes are extremely exaggerated

crush17 12-24-2012 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ZONA (Post 3762188)
Doom has been good, not special but good. He has improved his run defense but not enough. If you're on the team primarily because you're a "sack specialist" then you probably better have something like 14-16 sacks on the season. Don't think his play deserved a praise thread though. He hasn't been that good.

Totally disagree.

Some good reading for you and others who may share that opinion of Elvis this year:

http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/bron...ective-in-2012

and more...

http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/bron...ush-repertoire

Highly suggested reading. May help sway your opinion of his performance this season.

Kaylore 12-24-2012 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZONA (Post 3762188)
Doom has been good, not special but good. He has improved his run defense but not enough. If you're on the team primarily because you're a "sack specialist" then you probably better have something like 14-16 sacks on the season. Don't think his play deserved a praise thread though. He hasn't been that good.

I disagree with you. He's been very good and a big reason for our defense playing well. He has a lot of preassures and is out performing guys like Jared Allen and Mario Williams.

And I really don't think you're in any position to cricize someone for a thread they started when you started one a few days introducting a website most of us knew about and have been using for half a decade.

ZONA 12-24-2012 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore (Post 3762197)
I disagree with you. He's been very good and a big reason for our defense playing well. He has a lot of preassures and is out performing guys like Jared Allen and Mario Williams.

And I really don't think you're in any position to cricize someone for a thread they started when you started one a few days introducting a website most of us knew about and have been using for half a decade.

You assume most people on the mane knew about it. What 10 people said they've been there before. How many thousands of members are on the mane. You're going to say that most of then knew about it. That's really sticking your neck out.

And I disagree with your disagreement. I said Doom has been good. I don't think he's been SPECIAL. He had 17 sacks in 2009. Doom is a sack specialist, that's what he's paid alot of money to do. Even if he gets 1 more sack next week, 12 sacks is not enough to justify that contract. He needs more. Once again, this is not saying Doom is not good, he's been good, but it's my opinion he's not been as special as he was in 2009. That's the Doom I'd like to see.

Kaylore 12-24-2012 10:48 AM

You're wrong.

SimonFletcher73 12-24-2012 10:50 AM

There have been a few times when Elvis would have got a sack had Miller not beat him to the QB. Also the forced fumbles are huge. He should be in the Pro Bowl. His numbers when he was the only disruptive force on a crap line a few years ago mean nothing.

brncs_fan 12-24-2012 10:54 AM

Not to get off topic but that website had been around for years, referenced by many, and comes up early and often on a lot of Google searches.

Back to the topic. Way to go DOOM!

ZONA 12-24-2012 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore (Post 3762216)
You're wrong.

Wrong about what? That Doom had 17 sacks in 2009? That Doom is a sack specialist? That he's paid lot of money to be said sack specialist? Don't get all butt hurt because I think he could be playing a little better.

Kaylore 12-24-2012 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ZONA (Post 3762224)
Wrong about what? That Doom had 17 sacks in 2009? That Doom is a sack specialist? That he's paid lot of money to be said sack specialist? Don't get all butt hurt because I think he could be playing a little better.

I'm not butt hurt. You're wrong, though.

ZONA 12-24-2012 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SimonFletcher73 (Post 3762218)
There have been a few times when Elvis would have got a sack had Miller not beat him to the QB. Also the forced fumbles are huge. He should be in the Pro Bowl. His numbers when he was the only disruptive force on a crap line a few years ago mean nothing.

Wow, you're saying Doom's 17 sacks meant nothing? Say that to Dooms face, I bet he would cave your head in for saying that. It's usually HARDER to get sacks when you are the only threat. Teams can game plan for you. Doom hasn't been doubled at all this year. Clueless

crush17 12-24-2012 10:59 AM

ZONA did you take the time to read either of those blog postings? Just curious.

SimonFletcher73 12-24-2012 11:03 AM

They mean nothing to your argument that he isn't playing as well as 2009. If he didn't get to the QB that year, who would? Elvis doesn't care what we think. I wouldn't be afraid to tell him he's as good as he was in 2009.

brncs_fan 12-24-2012 11:09 AM

After his 17 sack season Doom sat out the whole next season with an injury. Since coming back he has increased his sack totals each year and is only 1.5 sacks behind his second bast season as a pro. A number that he probably would have eclipsed already if Miller didn't have 17.5 of his own.

Doom also has 22 Tackle assists, almost twice as many as his next highest year (2011).

His 6 FF are also a career high.

Kaylore 12-24-2012 11:18 AM

His forced fumbles is also fourth in the NFL.

ZONA 12-24-2012 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by crush17 (Post 3762232)
ZONA did you take the time to read either of those blog postings? Just curious.

Yeah, I did. Both seem to make an argument against those who are saying that Doom is having a bad year. I never even came close to saying that. The 2nd article went into much more detail about defensive scheme's and what not. Stating that Doom's stats have regressed a little due to him lining up in that Wide9 that he doesn't bull rush as much as he speed rushes. Maybe, I have seen Doom bull rush quite a bit this year. They also mention that he won't be able to stunt as much because he's lined up so wide. Ok, I can agree with that but just because a guy is lined up wide doesn't mean he's only got 2 choices (speed rush, bull rush). I haven't seen many swim moves this year or spin moves either (if you remember, Freeny lined up wide also and he used a ton of spin moves). But the guy is making a case that Doom's production is down just a bit because of what the team is asking him to do. That's all I said as well. He's playing good, but because he hasn't quite had the sack totals from a few years ago, he just doesn't look quite as special. Again, that's nowhere close to saying what these articles are defending, that some people suggest he's not playing good at all, which is stupid.

brncs_fan 12-24-2012 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore (Post 3762254)
His forced fumbles is also fourth in the NFL.

He is tied for first in the league in safeties.

UberBroncoMan 12-24-2012 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ZONA (Post 3762228)
Wow, you're saying Doom's 17 sacks meant nothing? Say that to Dooms face, I bet he would cave your head in for saying that. It's usually HARDER to get sacks when you are the only threat. Teams can game plan for you. Doom hasn't been doubled at all this year. Clueless

Different position, different scheme, different DC, different role...and Von takes some of his old sacks away.

Archer81 12-24-2012 11:32 AM

20 sacks or Doom SUCKS!

Boo him!

Boo!

:Broncos:

Vladimir 12-24-2012 11:33 AM

Doom is doing fine. 11 sacks is nothing to be ashamed of!

brncs_fan 12-24-2012 11:34 AM

Did you know that despite being selected 252 selections apart in the 2006 draft, Mario Williams (1st pick) Dumerville (253rd Pick) have the exact same number of career sacks at 63.5.

12-24-2012 11:38 AM

IAOF stated a few weeks ago if you take away both games against the chargers dooms pass rush grade is negative. Hes disapeared a lot this year ive been criticle of him this year but he had an ok game yesterday.


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