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baja 12-23-2012 09:12 PM

Your Denver Broncos are #2 on offense (scoring & yards) and #5 in scoring defense ( #4 in yards)
 
....and we are getting better with each passing week.

SoCalBronco 12-23-2012 09:17 PM

It's very, very rare to be in the Top 5 in both offense and defense. Denver is the best team in the league right now. I'm not scared of Houston (who doesnt show up for even semi-big games), or NE (who can't beat us in DEN), or BAL (for obvious reasons) or really anyone. Cincinnati is playing well, but I doubt they could win in DEN. Same for Indy. It's simply a matter of making sure we don't lose the turnover battle. That and injuries are really the only way we can foul this up. Keep your eye on the ball and we'll win the conference.

GB and SEA are playing at a very high level in the NFC, but Denver has done it more consistently and I feel really good right now against any opponent. Just hold on to the ball on offense and stay away from injuries and we should be fine.

Kaylore 12-23-2012 09:17 PM

But you are still scared of the Chiefs, right SoCal? :)

lonestar 12-23-2012 09:23 PM

actually as of right now..
defense by yards..
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Rk        Team        G        Pts/G        TotPts        Scrm Plys        Yds/G        Yds/P        1st/G        3rd Md        3rd Att        3rd Pct        4th Md        4th Att        4th Pct        Pen        Pen Yds        ToP/G        FUM        Lost
1        Pittsburgh Steelers        15        20.3        304        889        272.9        4.6        17.0        70        196        36        7        9        78        91        803        27:51        16        7
2        San Francisco 49ers        14        15.6        218        897        293.0        4.6        17.9        57        190        30        13        24        54        84        679        30:09        20        10
3        Denver Broncos        15        19.1        286        967        302.2        4.7        18.6        62        202        31        7        18        39        118        919        29:08        23        8

Defense by points.

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Rk        Team        G        Pts/G        TotPts        Scrm Plys        Yds/G        Yds/P        1st/G        3rd Md        3rd Att        3rd Pct        4th Md        4th Att        4th Pct        Pen        Pen Yds        ToP/G        FUM        Lost
1        San Francisco 49ers        14        15.6        218        897        293.0        4.6        17.9        57        190        30        13        24        54        84        679        30:09        20        10
2        Seattle Seahawks        14        15.6        219        851        303.9        5.0        18.4        71        176        40        1        7        14        82        746        28:60        24        12
3        Chicago Bears        15        16.9        253        958        314.9        4.9        17.7        71        206        34        10        16        62        74        675        28:52        32        17
4        Atlanta Falcons        15        18.5        277        926        365.5        5.9        18.7        74        184        40        6        13        46        81        626        28:56        16        11
5        Denver Broncos        15        19.1        286        967        302.2        4.7        18.6        62        202        31        7        18        39        118        919        29:08        23        8

offense by yards..
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Rk        Team        G        Pts/G        TotPts        Scrm Plys        Yds/G        Yds/P        1st/G        3rd Md        3rd Att        3rd Pct        4th Md        4th Att        4th Pct        Pen        Pen Yds        ToP/G        FUM        Lost        TO
1        New England Patriots        15        35.3        529        1,116        426.9        5.7        27.7        102        210        49        6        9        67        91        792        30:37        13        7        +23
2        Detroit Lions        15        23.2        348        1,097        414.2        5.7        24.1        90        214        42        6        15        40        99        915        32:30        21        13        -12
3        New Orleans Saints        15        28.2        423        1,004        408.9        6.1        22.0        87        195        45        6        12        50        99        856        29:11        13        5        +2
4        Denver Broncos        15        29.5        443        1,014        391.9        5.8        23.2       
89        201        44        3        5        60        95        775        30:52        21        13        0


offense by points..

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Rk        Team        G        Pts/G        TotPts        Scrm Plys        Yds/G        Yds/P        1st/G        3rd Md        3rd Att        3rd Pct        4th Md        4th Att        4th Pct        Pen        Pen Yds        ToP/G        FUM        Lost        TO
1        New England Patriots        15        35.3        529        1,116        426.9        5.7        27.7        102        210        49        6        9        67        91        792        30:37        13        7        +23
2        Denver Broncos        15        29.5        443        1,014        391.9        5.8        23.2        89        201        44        3        5        60        95        775        30:52        21        13        0
3        New Orleans Saints        15        28.2        423        1,004        408.9        6.1        22.0        87        195        45        6        12        50        99        856        29:11        13        5        +2
4        Washington Redskins        15        27.2        408        933        384.7        6.2        21.1        63        179        35        12        17        71        114        965        31:02        25        6        +14
5        Atlanta Falcons        15        26.8        402        959        375.2        5.9        21.9        89        190        47        1        5        20        53        400        31:04        9        4        +12
6        Houston Texans        15        26.7        400        1,030        373.4        5.4        21.5        78        210        37        4        7        57        99        809        34:06        12        4        +14
7        Green Bay Packers        15        26.6        399        981        356.4        5.4        21.1        84        200        42        6        12        50        96        880        30:36        15        7        +8
8        New York Giants        15        25.8        387        910        352.7        5.8        19.7        73        184        40        5        10        50        71        573        29:01        13        6        +13


SoCalBronco 12-23-2012 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaylore (Post 3761888)
But you are still scared of the Chiefs, right SoCal? :)

Cross your fingers and hope that we don't split as we usually do. :)

DEN should roll by 3 TD or more, but you never know in a Broncos-Chiefs game.

Seriously, this team has an amazing oppurtunity in front of them. I really hope they don't **** it up. It's all right there in front of us. There is tremendous balance between offense and defense that no one else in the NFL has. They need to get it done.

Houshyamama 12-23-2012 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lonestar (Post 3761894)
actually as of right now..
defense by yards..
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Rk        Team        G        Pts/G        TotPts        Scrm Plys        Yds/G        Yds/P        1st/G        3rd Md        3rd Att        3rd Pct        4th Md        4th Att        4th Pct        Pen        Pen Yds        ToP/G        FUM        Lost
1        Pittsburgh Steelers        15        20.3        304        889        272.9        4.6        17.0        70        196        36        7        9        78        91        803        27:51        16        7
2        San Francisco 49ers        14        15.6        218        897        293.0        4.6        17.9        57        190        30        13        24        54        84        679        30:09        20        10
3        Denver Broncos        15        19.1        286        967        302.2        4.7        18.6        62        202        31        7        18        39        118        919        29:08        23        8

Defense by points.

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Rk        Team        G        Pts/G        TotPts        Scrm Plys        Yds/G        Yds/P        1st/G        3rd Md        3rd Att        3rd Pct        4th Md        4th Att        4th Pct        Pen        Pen Yds        ToP/G        FUM        Lost
1        San Francisco 49ers        14        15.6        218        897        293.0        4.6        17.9        57        190        30        13        24        54        84        679        30:09        20        10
2        Seattle Seahawks        14        15.6        219        851        303.9        5.0        18.4        71        176        40        1        7        14        82        746        28:60        24        12
3        Chicago Bears        15        16.9        253        958        314.9        4.9        17.7        71        206        34        10        16        62        74        675        28:52        32        17
4        Atlanta Falcons        15        18.5        277        926        365.5        5.9        18.7        74        184        40        6        13        46        81        626        28:56        16        11
5        Denver Broncos        15        19.1        286        967        302.2        4.7        18.6        62        202        31        7        18        39        118        919        29:08        23        8

offense by yards..
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Rk        Team        G        Pts/G        TotPts        Scrm Plys        Yds/G        Yds/P        1st/G        3rd Md        3rd Att        3rd Pct        4th Md        4th Att        4th Pct        Pen        Pen Yds        ToP/G        FUM        Lost        TO
1        New England Patriots        15        35.3        529        1,116        426.9        5.7        27.7        102        210        49        6        9        67        91        792        30:37        13        7        +23
2        Detroit Lions        15        23.2        348        1,097        414.2        5.7        24.1        90        214        42        6        15        40        99        915        32:30        21        13        -12
3        New Orleans Saints        15        28.2        423        1,004        408.9        6.1        22.0        87        195        45        6        12        50        99        856        29:11        13        5        +2
4        Denver Broncos        15        29.5        443        1,014        391.9        5.8        23.2       
89        201        44        3        5        60        95        775        30:52        21        13        0


offense by points..

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Rk        Team        G        Pts/G        TotPts        Scrm Plys        Yds/G        Yds/P        1st/G        3rd Md        3rd Att        3rd Pct        4th Md        4th Att        4th Pct        Pen        Pen Yds        ToP/G        FUM        Lost        TO
1        New England Patriots        15        35.3        529        1,116        426.9        5.7        27.7        102        210        49        6        9        67        91        792        30:37        13        7        +23
2        Denver Broncos        15        29.5        443        1,014        391.9        5.8        23.2        89        201        44        3        5        60        95        775        30:52        21        13        0
3        New Orleans Saints        15        28.2        423        1,004        408.9        6.1        22.0        87        195        45        6        12        50        99        856        29:11        13        5        +2
4        Washington Redskins        15        27.2        408        933        384.7        6.2        21.1        63        179        35        12        17        71        114        965        31:02        25        6        +14
5        Atlanta Falcons        15        26.8        402        959        375.2        5.9        21.9        89        190        47        1        5        20        53        400        31:04        9        4        +12
6        Houston Texans        15        26.7        400        1,030        373.4        5.4        21.5        78        210        37        4        7        57        99        809        34:06        12        4        +14
7        Green Bay Packers        15        26.6        399        981        356.4        5.4        21.1        84        200        42        6        12        50        96        880        30:36        15        7        +8
8        New York Giants        15        25.8        387        910        352.7        5.8        19.7        73        184        40        5        10        50        71        573        29:01        13        6        +13


Maybe it's just my iPad, but your tables are misaligned and hurt my brain.

baja 12-23-2012 09:32 PM

You are correct Lonestar NFL.com must have not been up to date when I checked.

baja 12-23-2012 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalBronco (Post 3761896)
Cross your fingers and hope that we don't split as we usually do. :)

DEN should roll by 3 TD or more, but you never know in a Broncos-Chiefs game.

Seriously, this team has an amazing oppurtunity in front of them. I really hope they don't **** it up. It's all right there in front of us. There is tremendous balance between offense and defense that no one else in the NFL has. They need to get it done.

What is amazing about this team is we could have scored a lot more points and held opponents to much less points if we did not go so conservative in the second half with the lead.

I hate watching teams put up late game points because we go conservative.


I wish we had a little stronger running game but we are acceptable and will be better when Kupe returns. Really like the Hester pick up too. Hillman gets more comfortable every week too. Moreno is solid.

12-23-2012 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalBronco (Post 3761896)
Cross your fingers and hope that we don't split as we usually do. :)

DEN should roll by 3 TD or more, but you never know in a Broncos-Chiefs game.

Seriously, this team has an amazing oppurtunity in front of them. I really hope they don't **** it up. It's all right there in front of us. There is tremendous balance between offense and defense that no one else in the NFL has. They need to get it done.

They would have to **** up in epic proportions to lose to the Chiefs at home. I could see things going a little sideways and the game being closer than it should, but to lose? That would be one of the biggest **** ups in franchise history.

SoCalBronco 12-23-2012 10:04 PM

I wasnt referring to the Chiefs game in particular, Agamemnon, but rather to the possibility of losing in the AFC playoffs at some point. There's really no excuse for it. Even HOU has been exposed in primetime games. I think there is a good chnace they lose to INDY which would hand us the No. 1 seed. Certainly in that instance, there's no excuse for not making it to the SB. DEN has been LIGHTS OUT at home since the Houston game and all of these other teams (even NE) SHOULD have an uphill battle to beat DEN in DEN.

NUB 12-23-2012 10:26 PM

I still think Denver is prone to getting scored on. That's my only qualm. In their losses and in the game against San Diego, Denver's defense was getting flattened. Those losses weren't even close until the 4th quarter. Philip Rivers imploded, and I think we all knew that sort of win/loss was the kind that changes seasons (it totally reminded me of the season shift when the 4-4 Raiders came to Denver in 2002). No team really scares me except New England -- and that's because Tom Brady is the only QB that can hang with Peyton Manning. People suggesting we bail on the #1 seed are being idiots. Homefield advantage is gonna be a huge difference maker in who makes the Superbowl out of DEN/HOU/NE. The Broncos can handle Houston in Houston, but I sure as hell don't want to be going to New England and running into Belichick/Brady/the weather.

enjolras 12-23-2012 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NUB (Post 3761940)
I still think Denver is prone to getting scored on. That's my only qualm. In their losses and in the game against San Diego, Denver's defense was getting flattened.

The defense is pretty drastically different in terms of alignment and personnel at this point. Brooking, Carter (I have no doubt he'll be back on the active roster), Harris as a primary corner, DJ is back, etc....

All of those examples you cited happened in the first 6 weeks of the season as well. Since the end of the first half of that Chargers game this has been right near the top in terms of best defenses in football. They've shutdown some pretty good offenses (Saints and Ravens in particular). They force turnovers in bunches...it's just a really good defense.

I'm really interested to see how this defense stacks up against a New England or Houston now. I'm positive their a much better unit. I have no idea if they've improved enough to hold those offenses in check, it's going to be really interesting to find out.

lonestar 12-23-2012 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baja (Post 3761911)
What is amazing about this team is we could have scored a lot more points and held opponents to much less points if we did not go so conservative in the second half with the lead.

I hate watching teams put up late game points because we go conservative.


I wish we had a little stronger running game but we are acceptable and will be better when Kupe returns. Really like the Hester pick up too. Hillman gets more comfortable every week too. Moreno is solid.

I agree I hate it when we start playing around instead of stepping on their throats when we can.

Run the damned score up take no hostages. Being the Seahawks and put up 50+ each week.

as for Kuper coming back. Rumor has it it is both ankles.

I get this feeling he will not be back. Maybe ever.

Maybe Kupes Dad can give us the real skinny.

But in the mean time do not hold your breath about him riding in to save the day.

12-23-2012 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agamemnon (Post 3761920)
They would have to **** up in epic proportions to lose to the Chiefs at home. I could see things going a little sideways and the game being closer than it should, but to lose? That would be one of the biggest **** ups in franchise history.

Denver lost last year at home against the Chiefs the final game of the season.

lonestar 12-23-2012 11:24 PM

Let me add it see,Ed to me we jumped into zone coverage opposed to man during the game and all of sudden they started moving the ball.
Do what we do best and stay with it.

maher_tyler 12-23-2012 11:48 PM

Whats the status on McGahee and Kuper?

cutthemdown 12-23-2012 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maher_tyler (Post 3761969)
Whats the status on McGahee and Kuper?

I thought Mcgahee was IR? Kuper I think returns at some point by playoffs.

SoCalBronco 12-23-2012 11:54 PM

It was noted previously that McGahee could come back around the second round, even though he was placed on IR.

cutthemdown 12-23-2012 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bacchus (Post 3761962)
Denver lost last year at home against the Chiefs the final game of the season.

Always a risk playing a team that hates you, that has nothing to lose or gain. They often go for it on 4th down in the 1st quarter, try fake punts, etc whatever it takes to spoil it for the rival.

Still though the qbs stink there. The only player I could see making big plays is Charles and we are pretty good vs the run.

cutthemdown 12-23-2012 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco (Post 3761977)
It was noted previously that McGahee could come back around the second round, even though he was placed on IR.

Pretty unlikely a rb tears a ligament late in the yr, then makes it back by playoffs. I'd say its even possible McGahee done in Denver. What is he 32? coming off a bad injury on a team with Hillman just drafted and Moreno surging. I could see Broncos signing a younger vet back, or drafting another RB, and letting McGahee go.

I love him just saying it could happen.

cutthemdown 12-23-2012 11:57 PM

Throw in all his fumbles and I think McGahee in a bit of trouble for next yrs roster.

maher_tyler 12-24-2012 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco (Post 3761977)
It was noted previously that McGahee could come back around the second round, even though he was placed on IR.

Looks like the 3rd round according to this article. I was just wondering how his rehab has been coming along. Sunday would have made it week 5 of a 6-8 week injury.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/86...willis-mcgahee

enjolras 12-24-2012 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by lonestar (Post 3761961)
as for Kuper coming back. Rumor has it it is both ankles.

Citation?

gunns 12-24-2012 06:09 AM

The stat I still worry about is T/G. We're 18th. All of the other stats read very nicely. We are #1 in scoring differential and #3 in yard differential. If we improve on that T/G we are unstoppable.

ScottXray 12-24-2012 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by lonestar (Post 3761963)
Let me add it see,Ed to me we jumped into zone coverage opposed to man during the game and all of sudden they started moving the ball.
Do what we do best and stay with it.

Yesterday we also had Porter in ( who immediately got dinged and went out in the 1st quarter), and Carter was not active ( a BAD decision). When Cleveland started moving the ball it was mostly passes to their left...wide open. Carter will be back on the field next week ( I doubt Porter plays again),
and the miscommunication we saw yesterday should not be happening.

As to the D being scored on. Yeah it has been happening and is somewhat worrisome. But the references to the first SD game were wrong. The defense really only allowed 7 points and one drive in the first half, and got put in BAD positions by the offense ( 17 points off turnovers). Down 24 -0
they stepped it up even more and shut out SD in the 2nd half.

The one thing that I do think is finally evening out is turnovers. We are finally receovirng fumbles ( both ours and theirs) and are getting more than giving mostly.


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