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ZONA 12-14-2012 12:37 AM

Should we be safe and hold Kuper out another week?
 
Really tough choice for me. You want and need this game and Kuper can definitely help. But you also want this guy prime for a playoff run. That injury has been nagging at him. He's had 17 days off and that's been great. Just thinking maybe 1 more week would get him back to 100%.

Do you play Kuper this week or would you hold him out 1 more week, just to be safe?

cutthemdown 12-14-2012 01:23 AM

It's always the same answer. If he can go he will play. Coaches and players know that worrying about injuries almost pointless. Its more for us fans to worry about it. If the doctors clear him to play, and Kuper practiced well, he will play.

Beantown Bronco 12-14-2012 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ZONA (Post 3752874)
He's had 17 days off and that's been great. Just thinking maybe 1 more week would get him back to 100%.

Is that your expert, medical opinion?

Maybe we should hold him out another week. Maybe two. Or three. Maybe the SB. He'll HAVE to be 100% by then. Or not.

He could be as close to 100% today as he's going to be the rest of the season. We don't know. Maybe it's healed as much as it's going to until he completely shuts it down for the year and it won't matter how much longer he sits.

Trust in the coaches and medical staff. They know that a 80% Kuper is better than a 100% Manny and they'll know when he's at that point.

Dedhed 12-14-2012 07:19 AM

Fox said he would have played last week had it not been a short week, so I'm sure he's ready to go. You don't sit an important starter if he can go. Not many guys are 100% this time of year in the NFL.

WolfpackGuy 12-14-2012 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco (Post 3752892)
They know that a 80% Kuper is better than a 100% Manny

Damn right.

Kaylore 12-14-2012 07:31 AM

There's a bit of a mind game here. The more unclear it is who is going to play, the more players you have to prepare for.

Limited in practice means less than 100% of the practice. That means if they hold you out the last five minutes you're limited. I am curious of both Kuper and Woodyard's status this game. If both play, it was all precautionary. If not, the injury is more serious than they thought.

12-14-2012 08:00 AM

The thought of Man RAM on Ngata keeps me up at night.

DBroncos4life 12-14-2012 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55 (Post 3752970)
The thought of Man RAM on Ngata keeps me up at night.

Each to their own I guess :P

CEH 12-14-2012 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore (Post 3752959)
There's a bit of a mind game here. The more unclear it is who is going to play, the more players you have to prepare for.

Limited in practice means less than 100% of the practice. That means if they hold you out the last five minutes you're limited. I am curious of both Kuper and Woodyard's status this game. If both play, it was all precautionary. If not, the injury is more serious than they thought.

The late season Thursday nigth games really put the teams at a disavantage compared to the early season games when teams are fresher. Teams that play late in the season cant recover quick enough from the grind of the season to date.

I think Kupe played against Tampa and Tampa still lived in the Broncos backfield. I believe he won't be anywhere close to 100% for the remainder of the year but his value over ManRam is more about cohesion than skillset at this point

12-14-2012 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life (Post 3752973)
Each to their own I guess :P

LOL I set my self up good with that one.

Chris 12-14-2012 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CEH (Post 3752974)
The late season Thursday nigth games really put the teams at a disavantage compared to the early season games when teams are fresher. Teams that play late in the season cant recover quick enough from the grind of the season to date.

I think Kupe played against Tampa and Tampa still lived in the Broncos backfield. I believe he won't be anywhere close to 100% for the remainder of the year but his value over ManRam is more about cohesion than skillset at this point

Blasphemer!

Kaylore 12-14-2012 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CEH (Post 3752974)
The late season Thursday nigth games really put the teams at a disavantage compared to the early season games when teams are fresher. Teams that play late in the season cant recover quick enough from the grind of the season to date.

I think Kupe played against Tampa and Tampa still lived in the Broncos backfield. I believe he won't be anywhere close to 100% for the remainder of the year but his value over ManRam is more about cohesion than skillset at this point

That doesn't make any sense. By that logic Manny and the line should be doing better than when Kupe is in because he spent all of preseason and most of the season as the RG. In fact he hasn't, and the line has played worse when he's in.

CEH 12-14-2012 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore (Post 3752994)
That doesn't make any sense. By that logic Manny and the line should be doing better than when Kupe is in because he spent all of preseason and most of the season as the RG. In fact he hasn't, and the line has played worse when he's in.

Not sure you read it correctly. I think JJ Watt manhandles either Kuper or ManRam at this point because I don't think Kuper is right. Correct me if you think differently

Man Ram at 100% is probably just as good physically as Kupe at 80% but Kuper knows the line calls. It was ManRam who basically let Houston come untouched and sack Manning.

We'll see but I think Kuper spot will be an issue from here on out no matter who's in there.

Hope I'm wrong and Kuper comes back strong. Ngata will provide a fine litmus test for ole Kupe

baja 12-14-2012 09:06 AM

Sure wish Kupe's dad would weigh in on this.

ZONA 12-14-2012 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco (Post 3752892)
Is that your expert, medical opinion?

Maybe we should hold him out another week. Maybe two. Or three. Maybe the SB. He'll HAVE to be 100% by then. Or not.

He could be as close to 100% today as he's going to be the rest of the season. We don't know. Maybe it's healed as much as it's going to until he completely shuts it down for the year and it won't matter how much longer he sits.

Trust in the coaches and medical staff. They know that a 80% Kuper is better than a 100% Manny and they'll know when he's at that point.

No expert medical opinion, but let's not be naive here, another week would most likely benefit him. I highly doubt he's all the way back to 100%, HIGHLY DOUBT THAT. I know the coaches and medical staff will do what's right, that's their job. This is a forum, where we discuss OUR opinion. But will an 80% Kuper has a better chance at aggrivating the same injury then would a 95% Kuper.

Honestly, I would suit him up but wouldn't start him. See how the game unfolds, if it's tight and we need him, march him out there. If it's going well for us on offense, sit him out, it can only help him.

Beantown Bronco 12-14-2012 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ZONA (Post 3753005)
No expert medical opinion, but let's not be naive here, another week would most likely benefit him. I highly doubt he's all the way back to 100%, HIGHLY DOUBT THAT. I know the coaches and medical staff will do what's right, that's their job. This is a forum, where we discuss OUR opinion. But will an 80% Kuper has a better chance at aggrivating the same injury then would a 95% Kuper.

Honestly, I would suit him up but wouldn't start him. See how the game unfolds, if it's tight and we need him, march him out there. If it's going well for us on offense, sit him out, it can only help him.

According to dedhead's post above, Fox said Kuper would have played last week had it not been a short week. That tells me that he's already gotten the extra week of rest/healing that you're essentially proposing and that he's where he needs to be health-wise to play and play well. Add to that the fact that we need him this week more than any other and the decision is simple IMO.

LetsGoBroncos 12-14-2012 10:13 AM

Play him this week, get the win and keep the hopes of getting the bye alive. Rest him against Cleveland and KC before the playoffs.


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