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frerottenextelway 11-15-2012 04:46 PM

McCain Skips Benghazi Meeting To B**ch About Lack Of Benghazi Info, Has Crazy Old Man Meltdown
 
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/po...on_on_benghazi

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Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) has been the leading congressional critic of the administration's handling of the Benghazi attack and what he sees as the administration's lack of candor with Congress on the matter. On Wednesday, he pledged to block the potential nomination of U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice to replace Secretary of State Hillary Clinton due to Rice's statements on the attack. That drew a sharp rebuke from President Barack Obama at Wednesday's press conference.

But although McCain had time to speak on the Senate floor and on television about the lack of information provided to Congress about the attack, he didn't attend the classified briefing for senators Wednesday given to the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, of which he is a member.

Committee ranking Republican Susan Collins (R-ME) called out McCain for skipping the briefing and said his call for a special committee to investigate the Benghazi attack was not necessary because the Homeland Security committee could handle it.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...tioned-by-cnn/

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When CNN approached McCain in a Capitol hallway Thursday morning, the senator refused to comment about why he missed the briefing, which was conducted by top diplomatic, military and counter-terrorism officials. Instead, McCain got testy when pressed to say why he wasn’t there.

“I have no comment about my schedule and I’m not going to comment on how I spend my time to the media,” McCain said.

Asked why he wouldn’t comment, McCain grew agitated: “Because I have the right as a senator to have no comment and who the hell are you to tell me I can or not?”

When CNN noted that McCain had missed a key meeting on a subject the senator has been intensely upset about, McCain said, “I’m upset that you keep badgering me.”
Could anyone be more phony?

orinjkrush 11-15-2012 05:11 PM

yep, he's just waiting for Hillary to return from her Australian junket. Its not polite to have a party when the hostess isn't there.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN 11-16-2012 11:41 AM

Too bad these hypocrites weren't as interested in investigating 9/11.

Rohirrim 11-16-2012 11:59 AM

Partisan political hack.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN 11-16-2012 12:30 PM

http://www.bartcop.com/mccain-rice-irony.jpg

Cito Pelon 11-16-2012 12:47 PM

Yeah, it looks like McCain is getting into the over-the-hill territory. Seen it many times before.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN 11-16-2012 12:56 PM

McCain is the spitting intellectual image of every willfully ignorant rightard on this board...

This is the person John McCain characterizes as "not very bright" and "not qualified" - Keep in mind McCain picked Caribou Barbie to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...93264900_n.jpg

Jetmeck 11-16-2012 02:28 PM

Amen brother...McCain is looking a OLD GRUMPY Man who is bitter he lost.

Getting pretty old, think he should retire.

houghtam 11-16-2012 03:12 PM

And let's compare Susan Rice's education to...

John McCain - BS, US Naval Academy, 1954-1958, graduated 894th in a class of 899

I could break the top 500 in my sleep.

Rohirrim 11-16-2012 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN (Post 3727887)

He actually said that? That she's not very bright? That old man needs to get checked out for Alzheimer's. What a fool. If there is one thing I've seen out of McCain over the last twenty years, he is a man totally lacking in principles. He will say anything or take any stand on any issue in order to keep suckling on that government teat.

Odysseus 11-16-2012 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN (Post 3727921)
McCain is the spitting intellectual image of every willfully ignorant rightard on this board...

This is the person John McCain characterizes as "not very bright" and "not qualified" - Keep in mind McCain picked Caribou Barbie to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...93264900_n.jpg

McCain is an impatient and angry little man whose point of view is mired in years of abuse of power. McCain comes from "royalty". (His father was a four star admiral and his grandfather was a four star admiral) and his understanding of the military is archaic and out of touch. He has become more of a political stumbling block than a military friend.

McCain has been in politics 21 years ago and the only thing he talks about is having been a POW. His only real political accomplishment has been survival of censure, avoidance of jail, and avoiding prosecution. His voting record is so backwards that he spent a good part of his election campaign apologizing for stupid decisions he made. Oddly enough McCain has considerably more moral fiber, courage, and substance that Romney. Mitt lied about so many things even his own people did not trust him.

Look at Palin's resume. I wouldn't hire her to cut my lawn. She got out maneuvered by Michelle Bachman, disregarded by her own party, and quit her job in Alaska.

This is the real state of the RNC. I do not get why they do not see the whole integrity thing as a problem.

Bronco Yoda 11-16-2012 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Odysseus (Post 3728284)

Mitt lied about so many things even his own people did not trust him.

Look at Palin's resume. I wouldn't hire her to cut my lawn. She got out maneuvered by Michelle Bachman, disregarded by her own party, and quit her job in Alaska.

This is the real state of the RNC. I do not get why they do not see the whole integrity thing as a problem.

It really is a psychological phenomena. In some ways they've now crossed over from hypocrisy to something more pathetic: total self-deception.

cutthemdown 11-17-2012 12:11 AM

Except McCain is a war hero and Rice doesn't even bother showing up for most of the votes at the UN. In fact she missed everyone where israel was the subject. Big deal on her degrees that doesn't mean you get to be the secretary of state. Just nominate Kerry and get an easy confirmation. Why force the repubs into denying Rice? just to make a point? Nominate Kerry or Powell again and be done with it.

Odysseus 11-17-2012 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown (Post 3728346)
Except McCain is a war hero and Rice doesn't even bother showing up for most of the votes at the UN. In fact she missed everyone where israel was the subject. Big deal on her degrees that doesn't mean you get to be the secretary of state. Just nominate Kerry and get an easy confirmation. Why force the repubs into denying Rice? just to make a point? Nominate Kerry or Powell again and be done with it.

Nobody is going to contest McCain is a war hero...well...except for some of the guys that served with him, a few people who rescued him, and the handful of people who actually know the man personally....I digress.

Why did Rice no show? Do you know? If I detailed all the reason why would it change public perception? The problem with the perception game is we've become little better than Rome where media argues over the voice of Pleb rather than people asking questions they assume.

A soldier is in Afghanistan. War hero? No. He was here. Doesn't that mean anyone who wears the uniform is a hero? What about the guy the government if burning for slaughtering innocent Afghans? What if those Afghans were not as innocent as claimed? What if the reason was a failure in government policy?

If our drone policy is so bad why isn't McCain harping about that instead he wants to go after Bengazi?

I like conservatives. I wish we had more of them. Romney? Really!?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x2W4...eature=related

Cito Pelon 11-17-2012 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown (Post 3728346)
Except McCain is a war hero and Rice doesn't even bother showing up for most of the votes at the UN. In fact she missed everyone where israel was the subject. Big deal on her degrees that doesn't mean you get to be the secretary of state. Just nominate Kerry and get an easy confirmation. Why force the repubs into denying Rice? just to make a point? Nominate Kerry or Powell again and be done with it.

Yeah, I see your point. Sort of like how I felt about Condoleeza Rice.

Odysseus 11-17-2012 01:04 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=xpPMGAWFYxE

McCain stories abound.

Odysseus 11-17-2012 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Cito Pelon (Post 3728354)
Yeah, I see your point. Sort of like how I felt about Condoleeza Rice.

The "velvet hammer" is sorely underestimated. She is smart and very effective.

cutthemdown 11-17-2012 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Cito Pelon (Post 3728354)
Yeah, I see your point. Sort of like how I felt about Condoleeza Rice.

Condis resume crushes your Rice.

Drek 11-17-2012 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown (Post 3728346)
Except McCain is a war hero and Rice doesn't even bother showing up for most of the votes at the UN. In fact she missed everyone where israel was the subject. Big deal on her degrees that doesn't mean you get to be the secretary of state. Just nominate Kerry and get an easy confirmation. Why force the repubs into denying Rice? just to make a point? Nominate Kerry or Powell again and be done with it.

You do know that is intentional, right (regarding our non-presence in Israel votes)?

Israel is not in great standing right now in the UN. Both Russia and China carry anti-Israeli sentiment as an inherent part of their suite of alliances. It is far better for the U.S. from a foreign policy standpoint to abstain than to get into the quagmire that Israel/Palestine votes turn into in the U.N..

Case in point - not too long from now Palestine's appeal for U.N. recognition as a nation will be up for vote shortly. That is a vote the U.S. NEEDS to skip. We can't vote in favor of Palestine without completely ****ting on Israel. We can't vote against without throwing away all the work we've been trying to do in Libya, Egypt, Iraq, and Afghanistan, not to mention souring relations with several other key allies (Turkey for example).

Its a no win proposition and it is damn important for the U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. to know when it's better to not even show up and work behind closed doors.

As to your claim that Condi's resume far outstrips the current Rice in office, maybe you should actually do some follow up on that.

Both have PhDs (one in PoliSci, one in Philosophy with a global relations focus). Both have long histories of D.C. service and in fact both served on the National Security Council. Both have worked as public and international policy consultants in the private sector. Hell, both are Phi Beta Kappas. The big difference in their resumes to this point is that while Condi Rice was provost of Stanford Susan Rice (who actually got her B.A. from Stanford) has been the ambassador to the U.N..

Pretty comparable careers.

cutthemdown 11-17-2012 03:41 AM

Rice has a ship named after, has sat on the boards of major companies, is an accomplished concert pianist, a good golfer, and is a professor.

Also her job as provost was a slam dunk. She took a huge deficit and turned it around in two yrs. She is an amazing woman. Then of course she has already been secretary of state.

Drek 11-17-2012 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown (Post 3728375)
Rice has a ship named after, has sat on the boards of major companies, is an accomplished concert pianist, a good golfer, and is a professor.

Also her job as provost was a slam dunk. She took a huge deficit and turned it around in two yrs. She is an amazing woman. Then of course she has already been secretary of state.

No **** she's already been SoS. Can't really check that box until you get the job.

Also, seriously? Ship named after her, concert pianist, good golfer, those are the kinds of things you think are resume highlights? I didn't realize the qualifications for SoS are the same as those for an interesting date.

Cito Pelon 11-17-2012 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown (Post 3728367)
Condis resume crushes your Rice.

Neither of them is mine.

Cito Pelon 11-17-2012 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown (Post 3728375)
Rice has a ship named after, has sat on the boards of major companies, is an accomplished concert pianist, a good golfer, and is a professor.

Also her job as provost was a slam dunk. She took a huge deficit and turned it around in two yrs. She is an amazing woman. Then of course she has already been secretary of state.

She was way out of her league as SoS. Also as National Security Advisor. Remember the Congressional hearings about 9/11? The fool tried to pretend like there was no warning about domestic terrorism when there was a warning titled, "Threat of Domestic Terrorism". But she claimed there was no such thing and replied to inquiries by saying, "Do you question my integrity?"

Condi was pathetic, Cutt. I'm sorry, but she was, and she's not gonna have any kind of political career in the future because she was so pathetic. Much like other darlings of the right like Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman. I think Paul Ryan qualifies as a darling pretty face also like the above mentioned.

frerottenextelway 11-17-2012 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cito Pelon (Post 3728388)
She was way out of her league as SoS. Also as National Security Advisor. Remember the Congressional hearings about 9/11? The fool tried to pretend like there was no warning about domestic terrorism when there was a warning titled, "Threat of Domestic Terrorism". But she claimed there was no such thing and replied to inquiries by saying, "Do you question my integrity?"

Condi was pathetic, Cutt. I'm sorry, but she was, and she's not gonna have any kind of political career in the future because she was so pathetic. Much like other darlings of the right like Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman. I think Paul Ryan qualifies as a darling pretty face also like the above mentioned.

I don't think it's fair to put Condi in the same class as Palin or Bachman. I don't think Condi was a good SOS, but I think she was qualified & at least not batsh*t crazy like Palin and Bachman. ... And Susan Rice is a brilliant woman and more than qualified, she'd be good for this country.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN 11-18-2012 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by frerottenextelway (Post 3728856)
I don't think it's fair to put Condi in the same class as Palin or Bachman. I don't think Condi was a good SOS, but I think she was qualified & at least not batsh*t crazy like Palin and Bachman. ... And Susan Rice is a brilliant woman and more than qualified, she'd be good for this country.

Kindasleaza wasn't crazy - just extremely corrupt and lacking in any sort of moral compass. She had no scruples about getting in bed with war criminals and white collar crooks if it advanced her career. She should be in prison for perjuring herself in front of the 9/11 Commission, among other things.


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