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GoBroncos DownUnder 10-16-2012 09:19 AM

The MNF refereeing
 
Was I the only person who was scratching their head at some of the calls?

1st quarter-
The Rivers "false start" out of shotgun was a phantom call, even after they explained it ... that false start just was NOT THERE at the time the ref threw his flag.
The Rivers "false start" when he was under center ... again, NOT THERE when the flag was thrown.

4th quarter-
The Decker "touching" the defender flag ... really? Some of the Denver DBs were mugging SD receivers and didn't get flagged.


You can say they "offset" each other, and that it all works out in the end, but should we really be reduced to the ref's flagging plays to "make amends" for prior calls?

Kaylore 10-16-2012 09:25 AM

The Decker PI call had me all

http://www.sectalk.com/board/public/...i_wtf_cube.gif

bronco militia 10-16-2012 09:26 AM

google Jeff Triplet...seriously, **** that guy

gyldenlove 10-16-2012 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GoBroncos DownUnder (Post 3699658)
Was I the only person who was scratching their head at some of the calls?

1st quarter-
The Rivers "false start" out of shotgun was a phantom call, even after they explained it ... that false start just was NOT THERE at the time the ref threw his flag.
The Rivers "false start" when he was under center ... again, NOT THERE when the flag was thrown.

4th quarter-
The Decker "touching" the defender flag ... really? Some of the Denver DBs were mugging SD receivers and didn't get flagged.


You can say they "offset" each other, and that it all works out in the end, but should we really be reduced to the ref's flagging plays to "make amends" for prior calls?

The under center one I could sort of see, the shotgun call was a complete phantom call. There is a limit to how much you are allowed to simulate the snap and when Rivers got called under center he definitely put his down and came back up like he was getting the ball.

The offensive pass intereference on Decker was a phantom call as well, he in no way interfered with the defenders ability to make the catch - which is something that should be assessed according to the rules.

I couldn't really tell on the first Harris interception if he got a hold of Royal more or less than 5 yards down field, it looked borderline when I saw it live.

Gort 10-16-2012 09:29 AM

wait... i thought everything was going to be unicorns and rainbows once the regular refs came back and we got rid of the replacement refs?

is the reffing still as bad as it ever was? i'm pretty sure that the only reason the Sparklers didn't get called for holding was because they were not - never, ever - holding Doomervil or any other Bronco.

are you casting aspersions on the regular refs? i may have to report you to Emperor Goodell.

2KBack 10-16-2012 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by gyldenlove (Post 3699667)
The under center one I could sort of see, the shotgun call was a complete phantom call. There is a limit to how much you are allowed to simulate the snap and when Rivers got called under center he definitely put his down and came back up like he was getting the ball.

The offensive pass intereference on Decker was a phantom call as well, he in no way interfered with the defenders ability to make the catch - which is something that should be assessed according to the rules.

I couldn't really tell on the first Harris interception if he got a hold of Royal more or less than 5 yards down field, it looked borderline when I saw it live.

Royal initiated the contact on the INT, good no call.

Deckers PI? Someone got paid off

I agree on the 2 Rivers False starts. I thought the shotgun one was a bad call, but he had a pronounced head bob when he was under center.

GoBroncos DownUnder 10-16-2012 09:43 AM

Oh, and I LOVED it when the commentators said "Ironically, the QB false start rule was largely introduced to stop Peyton Manning from moving and drawing the opposing D offsides"

Kid A 10-16-2012 09:43 AM

Compared to the replacement refs you could see even this crew's higher quality in how they got almost every close catch and the River's fumble correct live. During the strike the Stokely TD, the Tamme first down all would have been a 50/50 shot of being called incomplete with a 5 minute review following. So they were seeing the game speed fine.

But better game flow doesn't make up for ticky tack penalties. Just really weird in a game with only a couple holding calls made that they were over-the-top on hand gestures and offensive PI.

BowlenBall 10-16-2012 10:14 AM

I thought both of Rivers false starts were ridiculous... neither were even close. Nor was the Decker PI call.

All 3 were real head-scratchers for me, almost like the refs had decided to throw the flag before the play, no matter what.

10-16-2012 10:14 AM

Bottom line,

Real refs > replacement refs.

TonyR 10-16-2012 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore (Post 3699662)
The Decker PI call had me all...

Live action for some reason I thought he may have pushed off. Replays clearly showed he did no such thing. Terrible call. PM dropping angry F bombs on the sideline after, coupled with the win, almost made it worth it!

LRtagger 10-16-2012 10:20 AM

I thought the refereeing was terrible, but was a non-factor in the outcome of the game.

WolfpackGuy 10-16-2012 10:22 AM

Not defending Boldin by any means, but they missed him recovering his fumble before the pileup.

TonyR 10-16-2012 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by WolfpackGuy (Post 3699714)
Not defending Boldin by any means, but they missed him recovering his fumble before the pileup.

Could this have been challenged? Anyone know? I'm guessing not.

WolfpackGuy 10-16-2012 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyR (Post 3699717)
Could this have been challenged? Anyone know? I'm guessing not.

I'm thinking not challengeable because of the uncertainty of when the whistle was blown, but you could see early on he had it in the reverse angle.

I also think they missed the SD guy in Holliday's face on the muff because I believe he called a fair catch and that guy was all over him.

Smilin Assassin 10-16-2012 10:29 AM

I really think that conversation about Leonhard's int was about dual possession. I think one of the refs squashed that real quick just "because".

The spiking of the ball ticked me off, though. I know emotions run high, but for ****'s sake, you're a professional. Know that doing that is going to cost your team.

LRtagger 10-16-2012 10:35 AM

I thought the fair catch muff should have been an interference penalty also. If a guy calls for a fair catch dont the defenders have to give a 2 yard cushion?

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...3078--nfl.html

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Here at Shutdown Corner, we've documented the bizarre exploits of Jeff Triplette, the NFL's worst non-replacement ref, for quite some time. There was the Monday Night Football game last season, when Triplette started making stuff up on a call/no-call in a game between the New Orleans Saints and Atlanta Falcons. To be fair, Jeff, it's tough to know the difference between a hold and not a hold when the signals you're getting from your home planet are interfering with the frequency of your wireless microphone.

BowlenBall 10-16-2012 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by LRtagger (Post 3699731)
I thought the fair catch muff should have been an interference penalty also. If a guy calls for a fair catch dont the defenders have to give a 2 yard cushion?

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...3078--nfl.html

That's right... I totally forgot about that one. Go back and watch it... the Chargers player is so close that his knee touches Holliday's. If that's not an interference call, then there's no such thing.

Make that 4 inexplicable calls then:

1) Holliday's fumble non-call
2) Rivers' false start #1
3) Rivers' false start #2
4) Decker's phantom PI

ColoradoDarin 10-16-2012 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by WolfpackGuy (Post 3699714)
Not defending Boldin by any means, but they missed him recovering his fumble before the pileup.

I couldn't believe that one either, I thought I saw it that way live and confirmed it when they replayed it. He has the ball, clearly. Then he's touched (down supposedly) and the Chargers jump on him and rip the ball away.

TheElusiveKyleOrton 10-16-2012 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic (Post 3699705)
Bottom line,

Real refs > replacement refs.

Can't believe some people still need this spelled out for them.

enjolras 10-16-2012 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyR (Post 3699717)
Could this have been challenged? Anyone know? I'm guessing not.

All turnovers are reviewed, so it was looked at.

BowlenBall 10-16-2012 11:07 AM

What Peyton thinks of Triplette:

http://www.terezowens.com/wp-content...on-Manning.gif

Cosmo 10-16-2012 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BowlenBall (Post 3699766)

Damn did we get some good gifs from that game.

doonwise 10-16-2012 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BowlenBall (Post 3699766)

Wasn't that his reaction after a run play was called on 3rd and 8? Quite an odd call.

LRtagger 10-16-2012 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic (Post 3699705)
Bottom line,

Real refs > replacement refs.

Clearly, but that doesnt make Jeff Triplette a competent official.


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